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Wish you could send some nippiness this way, we are still over 100!!!   Beav

Judith Tilton wrote:

> Dear Beav,
> Great tips on meditating!!  I am going to give it a go....We actually have a
> few of the nature tapes which we simply enjoy listening to whenever.
> The sun is shining brilliantly here today although a little nippy in the
> temperature department.   Can't complain.
> Have a wonderful day!
> Judith t.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: beav76@uswest.net <beav76@uswest.net>
> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
>
> >Hi Judith;
> >    I kind of think everyone has their own way of meditating but I can tell
> you
> >what I like to do. Really soft sounds like water or waves or birds, these
> are
> >really relaxing tapes and sometimes listen to them while taking a warm bath
> with
> >just a candle lit. I try to feel for feelings of relaxation and peace and
> >kindness for those that are in my life. I will sometimes feel like praying
> a
> >special way  with just feelings. Those are what I do and maybe some others
> on
> >this forum have ways that they like to meditate. I know that a healer that
> >worked on my husband liked for him to listen to nature tapes and imagine
> the
> >cancer disapearing and concentrating on strength and good health. Good
> luck, so
> >glad to hear you are feeling better.....Your friend....Beav
> >
> >Judith Tilton wrote:
> >
> >> Beav,
> >> You are just too great!!!!  Just reading the words from you and others
> have
> >> given me a spurt of strength that I do want to regain control and fight.
> >> Many Many thanks........I would be interested in meditation.  How is best
> to
> >> start??
> >> Judith t.
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: beav76@uswest.net <beav76@uswest.net>
> >> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
> >> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:11 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
> >>
> >> >Hi Judith;  Just jumping in here to add my 2 cents worth.. There is so
> much
> >> >information and options from alternative trtmts. to conventional, I
> agree
> >> 100%
> >> >with Bridget that it is time for you to express your feelings to your
> onc..
> >> >Sometimes you just have to demand an extra few minutes of their time and
> >> say
> >> >Hey!! I need your help, I am scared. Sometimes I think the drs. are in a
> >> numb
> >> >state to do the kind of work they do. With my experience you just have
> to
> >> shake
> >> >them up and let them know you need something else. One way or the other.
> My
> >> >husband was on Thalidimide for about 4 mos.. It isn't a harsh drug, it
> >> mostly
> >> >causes drowsiness and dry skin. Some people are getting good results
> with
> >> >Thalidimide and another chemo, what Lillian calls 2 prong trtmts.
> >> >    There is nothing more helpful to your soul then meditation and
> prayer.
> >> I too
> >> >will be praying for you.. This journey with cancer is full of dips and
> >> dives but
> >> >there are good things that come out of it too.Your one day at a time
> >> friend,
> >> >Beav
> >> >
> >> >Bridget Rambeau wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Judith. In future I won't consider myself butting in just because
> your
> >> >> message is addressed to one person, okay? And yes, that does make
> sense.
> >> >> I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time with the chemo. I'm
> afraid
> >> >> that chemo made up a very small part of my txs, primarily I rec'd
> >> radiation.
> >> >> The chemo I did have was 5FU, 8 txs and minimal side effects. I'm sure
> >> there
> >> >> are others who can provide more info than I.
> >> >> When you say give up, what exactly do you mean? If you're referring
> only
> >> to
> >> >> the chemo tx because you've lost faith in it's ability to help, then
> only
> >> >> you can answer that question. I believe one has to balance the benefit
> of
> >> >> txs against the quality of life they're experiencing.
> >> >> On the other hand, if you're referring to giving up on trying to
> combat
> >> the
> >> >> cancer, then any time would be too soon. Perhaps you should sit down
> with
> >> >> your onc, explain your concern and ask about either stronger
> medications
> >> to
> >> >> offset the effects or alternative txs that might be available to you
> >> other
> >> >> than the chemo.
> >> >> I wish you luck Judith in making this extremely difficult decision and
> >> will
> >> >> pray that you find some relief soon.
> >> >> Just out of curiousity, do you meditate at all or listen to relaxation
> >> >> tapes?
> >> >> Your friend,
> >> >> Bridget
> >> >>
> >> >> >From: "Judith Tilton" <judithtilton@netzero.net>
> >> >> >Reply-To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> >> >> >To: <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
> >> >> >Subject: Re: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
> >> >> >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:48:55 -0400
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Dear Bridget,
> >> >> >My messages, although usually in response to others are for all.
> (Does
> >> >> >that
> >> >> >make sense?)  Anyway, thank you very much for your good wishes.  I am
> >> not
> >> >> >having a great day with effects from yesterday's chemo.  I really
> don't
> >> >> >want
> >> >> >to do it anymore.    Do you know anything about Thalidimide effects?
> My
> >> >> >oncologist gave me that as one of the options but recommended I start
> >> with
> >> >> >the CPT11 - 5FU/Leukovorin combo.   I just don't know what to do at
> this
> >> >> >point.  I pretty much have been on chemo for 2 years with just a
> short 3
> >> >> >month break in between original diagnosis and recurrence.   Is it too
> >> soon
> >> >> >to give up???
> >> >> >Hope I haven't gone on too much.
> >> >> >Thanks
> >> >> >Judith t.
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >From: Bridget Rambeau <bsbridget@hotmail.com>
> >> >> >To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
> >> >> >Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:44 AM
> >> >> >Subject: Re: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >Hi Judith.
> >> >> > >I don't mean to butt in on your letter but I wanted you to know
> that
> >> I'm
> >> >> > >wishing you luck today with your txs and will be thinking of you.
> >> >> > >Your friend,
> >> >> > >Bridget
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >>From: "Judith Tilton" <judithtilton@netzero.net>
> >> >> > >>Reply-To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> >> >> > >>To: <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
> >> >> > >>Subject: Re: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
> >> >> > >>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:33:01 -0400
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>Dearest Lillian,
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>It is me again....I cannot thank you enough for providing all the
> >> great
> >> >> > >>info...It seems as I opened your messages this morning, just about
> >> every
> >> >> > >>other one pertained to effects I have had with chemo.
> >> >> > >>I am a little nervous as I resume my chemo in about an hour from
> now
> >> for
> >> >> > >>first time in about 6 weeks and this is going to be the CPT11,
> >> >> > >>5FU/Leukovorin combo.  I feel there has been something going on in
> my
> >> >> > >>abdomen during the period I was off chemo and I look forward to
> the
> >> >> > >>?????security of the chemo, but I am definitely a little scared
> about
> >> >> >this
> >> >> > >>go around.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>Thanks for listening and being there,
> >> >> > >>Judith Tilton
> >> >> > >>     -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > >>     From: Lillian <firefly@islc.net>
> >> >> > >>     To: MOL <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
> >> >> > >>     Date: Sunday, September 24, 2000 10:01 PM
> >> >> > >>     Subject: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>     How is cancer staged?
> >> >> > >>     http://www.jasper-web.com/texascanceronline/staging.htm
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>     We invite you to take a look at our Album.
> >> >> > >>     www.angelfire.com/sc/molangels/index.html
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>       ( Very informational, good tips, Molers pictures, art work
> and
> >> >> >much
> >> >> > >>more....
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >>
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