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Dear Beav,
Great tips on meditating!!  I am going to give it a go....We actually have a
few of the nature tapes which we simply enjoy listening to whenever.
The sun is shining brilliantly here today although a little nippy in the
temperature department.   Can't complain.
Have a wonderful day!
Judith t.
-----Original Message-----
From: beav76@uswest.net <beav76@uswest.net>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Date: Thursday, September 28, 2000 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...


>Hi Judith;
>    I kind of think everyone has their own way of meditating but I can tell
you
>what I like to do. Really soft sounds like water or waves or birds, these
are
>really relaxing tapes and sometimes listen to them while taking a warm bath
with
>just a candle lit. I try to feel for feelings of relaxation and peace and
>kindness for those that are in my life. I will sometimes feel like praying
a
>special way  with just feelings. Those are what I do and maybe some others
on
>this forum have ways that they like to meditate. I know that a healer that
>worked on my husband liked for him to listen to nature tapes and imagine
the
>cancer disapearing and concentrating on strength and good health. Good
luck, so
>glad to hear you are feeling better.....Your friend....Beav
>
>Judith Tilton wrote:
>
>> Beav,
>> You are just too great!!!!  Just reading the words from you and others
have
>> given me a spurt of strength that I do want to regain control and fight.
>> Many Many thanks........I would be interested in meditation.  How is best
to
>> start??
>> Judith t.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: beav76@uswest.net <beav76@uswest.net>
>> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
>>
>> >Hi Judith;  Just jumping in here to add my 2 cents worth.. There is so
much
>> >information and options from alternative trtmts. to conventional, I
agree
>> 100%
>> >with Bridget that it is time for you to express your feelings to your
onc..
>> >Sometimes you just have to demand an extra few minutes of their time and
>> say
>> >Hey!! I need your help, I am scared. Sometimes I think the drs. are in a
>> numb
>> >state to do the kind of work they do. With my experience you just have
to
>> shake
>> >them up and let them know you need something else. One way or the other.
My
>> >husband was on Thalidimide for about 4 mos.. It isn't a harsh drug, it
>> mostly
>> >causes drowsiness and dry skin. Some people are getting good results
with
>> >Thalidimide and another chemo, what Lillian calls 2 prong trtmts.
>> >    There is nothing more helpful to your soul then meditation and
prayer.
>> I too
>> >will be praying for you.. This journey with cancer is full of dips and
>> dives but
>> >there are good things that come out of it too.Your one day at a time
>> friend,
>> >Beav
>> >
>> >Bridget Rambeau wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Judith. In future I won't consider myself butting in just because
your
>> >> message is addressed to one person, okay? And yes, that does make
sense.
>> >> I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time with the chemo. I'm
afraid
>> >> that chemo made up a very small part of my txs, primarily I rec'd
>> radiation.
>> >> The chemo I did have was 5FU, 8 txs and minimal side effects. I'm sure
>> there
>> >> are others who can provide more info than I.
>> >> When you say give up, what exactly do you mean? If you're referring
only
>> to
>> >> the chemo tx because you've lost faith in it's ability to help, then
only
>> >> you can answer that question. I believe one has to balance the benefit
of
>> >> txs against the quality of life they're experiencing.
>> >> On the other hand, if you're referring to giving up on trying to
combat
>> the
>> >> cancer, then any time would be too soon. Perhaps you should sit down
with
>> >> your onc, explain your concern and ask about either stronger
medications
>> to
>> >> offset the effects or alternative txs that might be available to you
>> other
>> >> than the chemo.
>> >> I wish you luck Judith in making this extremely difficult decision and
>> will
>> >> pray that you find some relief soon.
>> >> Just out of curiousity, do you meditate at all or listen to relaxation
>> >> tapes?
>> >> Your friend,
>> >> Bridget
>> >>
>> >> >From: "Judith Tilton" <judithtilton@netzero.net>
>> >> >Reply-To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
>> >> >To: <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>> >> >Subject: Re: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
>> >> >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:48:55 -0400
>> >> >
>> >> >Dear Bridget,
>> >> >My messages, although usually in response to others are for all.
(Does
>> >> >that
>> >> >make sense?)  Anyway, thank you very much for your good wishes.  I am
>> not
>> >> >having a great day with effects from yesterday's chemo.  I really
don't
>> >> >want
>> >> >to do it anymore.    Do you know anything about Thalidimide effects?
My
>> >> >oncologist gave me that as one of the options but recommended I start
>> with
>> >> >the CPT11 - 5FU/Leukovorin combo.   I just don't know what to do at
this
>> >> >point.  I pretty much have been on chemo for 2 years with just a
short 3
>> >> >month break in between original diagnosis and recurrence.   Is it too
>> soon
>> >> >to give up???
>> >> >Hope I haven't gone on too much.
>> >> >Thanks
>> >> >Judith t.
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: Bridget Rambeau <bsbridget@hotmail.com>
>> >> >To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>> >> >Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:44 AM
>> >> >Subject: Re: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >Hi Judith.
>> >> > >I don't mean to butt in on your letter but I wanted you to know
that
>> I'm
>> >> > >wishing you luck today with your txs and will be thinking of you.
>> >> > >Your friend,
>> >> > >Bridget
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>From: "Judith Tilton" <judithtilton@netzero.net>
>> >> > >>Reply-To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
>> >> > >>To: <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>> >> > >>Subject: Re: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
>> >> > >>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:33:01 -0400
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Dearest Lillian,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>It is me again....I cannot thank you enough for providing all the
>> great
>> >> > >>info...It seems as I opened your messages this morning, just about
>> every
>> >> > >>other one pertained to effects I have had with chemo.
>> >> > >>I am a little nervous as I resume my chemo in about an hour from
now
>> for
>> >> > >>first time in about 6 weeks and this is going to be the CPT11,
>> >> > >>5FU/Leukovorin combo.  I feel there has been something going on in
my
>> >> > >>abdomen during the period I was off chemo and I look forward to
the
>> >> > >>?????security of the chemo, but I am definitely a little scared
about
>> >> >this
>> >> > >>go around.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Thanks for listening and being there,
>> >> > >>Judith Tilton
>> >> > >>     -----Original Message-----
>> >> > >>     From: Lillian <firefly@islc.net>
>> >> > >>     To: MOL <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>> >> > >>     Date: Sunday, September 24, 2000 10:01 PM
>> >> > >>     Subject: [MOL] Staging Caner, Educational...
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>     How is cancer staged?
>> >> > >>     http://www.jasper-web.com/texascanceronline/staging.htm
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>     We invite you to take a look at our Album.
>> >> > >>     www.angelfire.com/sc/molangels/index.html
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>       ( Very informational, good tips, Molers pictures, art work
and
>> >> >much
>> >> > >>more....
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>>
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