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Re: FW: FW: [MOL] Dog Ob./ David/Lillian



Dear David Whipps,

	Why can't you have a dog?

Carol in Memphis


On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 14:37:32 +0100 "Whipps, David"
<David.Whipps@equitas.co.uk> writes:
> Bridgett
> Hi, I am very complimented to be called a dog !(?)   Like most 
> things in my
> life, (this forum, my current job) I sort of fell into it by 
> accident.  I am
> a soft touch, and when asked for help, generally do so.  About 5 
> years ago,
> I was asked to help out at a dog training schools christmas party 
> (Yep for
> the dogs more than the people) and sort of stayed around ever since. 
>  I was
> taught by one of the current trainers, and had to take a formal 
> course, and
> since then I'm looking into doing a Canine Behavioural course.  It 
> means I
> can then become a human and dog psychologist...................
> 
> Its very addictive, and I desperately want my own dog (At the 
> moment, I have
> to make do with my 11 fish) but being a responsible dog pre-owner, I 
> know
> that I can't have one. 
> 
> Still one day .........................
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bridget Rambeau [mailto:bsbridget@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 08 August 2000 10:07
> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> Subject: Re: FW: FW: [MOL] Dog Ob./ David/Lillian
> 
> 
> Hi David. I had 2 Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retrievers. This breed 
> was 
> developed in Nova Scotia (where I live) and look like miniature 
> Golden 
> Retrievers. They run about 30-40 lbs. 1 Siberian Husky. 1 Lab/Collie 
> mix. 1 
> Shepperd/Husky mix. 1 German Shepperd. 1 Yellow Lab. 1 Shih Tsu. And 
> my 
> current baby; an 11 month old Llasa Apso puppy that is the light of 
> my life.
> 
> His name is Sox and, after my last surgery, 2 friends from NB came 
> to pick 
> me up and take me home and brought with them this little bundle of 
> fur. At 
> first I was iffy as I was afraid I couldn't care for him but by the 
> end of 
> the 5 hr drive I was hopelessly in love. He's been the best thing 
> I've taken
> 
> for my health so far!!! And no, you can't have him, sorry. I didn't 
> have 
> them all at once, I generally prefer to have 2 at a time. I had 3 
> once and 
> that was a little much. And now I have 1, mainly because I don't 
> want to 
> share his affection as I've gotten quite greedy in the department.
> What got you into training? I always thought that would be a lot of 
> fun.
> Your doggy friend (the 2 legged kind),
> Bridget
> 
> 
> >From: "Whipps, David" <David.Whipps@equitas.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> >To: "'angel'" <mol-cancer@meds.com>
> >Subject: FW: FW: [MOL] Dog Ob./ David/Lillian
> >Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 14:30:29 +0100
> >
> >Bridgett,
> >
> >Of course you haven't offended me. Although I do the doggie 
> training bit, 
> >(2
> >nights a week) I haven't got my own dog at the moment, so personal
> >experience is always something that we trainers rely on.  Often, 
> you may
> >suggest things to people, but someone else has tried something 
> totally
> >different, but it worked.
> >
> >9 puppies sounds like fun.  What were they?  Have you still got 
> any, and 
> >can
> >you air mail them to me!!!
> >
> >LUL
> >David
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Bridget Rambeau [mailto:bsbridget@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: 07 August 2000 10:47
> >To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> >Subject: Re: FW: [MOL] Dog Ob./ David/Lillian
> >
> >
> >Hi Guys, I don't mean to butt in (that's obviously not true) and am
> >certainly no expert but I have raised 9 puppies so have had some 
> personal
> >experience. I just wanted to support what Dave said about the stuff 
> you
> >smear on your furniture. While it may(?) work on some dogs, yours 
> may
> >actually like the stuff; there's no accounting for taste. It's 
> also, as 
> >Dave
> >
> >said, a negative form of punishent. What I do with chewers does 
> require you
> >to pay extra attention but, if you're consistent, it shouldn't take 
> very
> >long. Every time you see your dog chewing at anything he shouldn't, 
> simply
> >go up to him, don't say anything, remove the offending item or in 
> the case
> >of furniture guide him away from it and give him something he's 
> allowed. At
> >this point start taking to him and shower him with praise. The Kong 
> Dave
> >mentioned is great. They also come round in the shape of a ball and 
> the dog
> >can chase it all over the floor. Sox Loves his. Often the dog does 
> this out
> >of boredom so get Chuck to chase him around the yard a few times.
> >I hope I haven't offended you Dave, you obviosly have much more 
> knowledge 
> >in
> >
> >this area than I do but, if the discussion is about dogs, I can't 
> seem to
> >stay out of it.
> >Love Y'all,
> >Bridget
> >
> >
> > >From: "Whipps, David" <David.Whipps@equitas.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> > >To: "'angel'" <mol-cancer@meds.com>
> > >Subject: FW: [MOL] Dog Ob./ David/Lillian
> > >Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:43:13 +0100
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Lillian
> > >
> > >Great Danes are lovely, when I eventually get my working from 
> home
> > >position,
> > >I want to get a Dane and possibly an Irish Wolf Hound.  Anyway, 
> back to
> > >business.  There are two schools of thought on this one, the 
> first, I 
> >don't
> > >advocate, but will tell you anyway.  Like pepper sprays you can 
> use to 
> >get
> > >cats out of your garden, there is a product that is available 
> (made by
> > >Petzyme so I think it is available in US) that you smear on areas 
> that 
> >the
> > >dog is interested in, (Its supposedly non-staining) that tastes 
> Bitter. 
> >In
> > >theory the dog tries to chew on the areas, gets a nasty taste, 
> and learns
> > >not to do so.  Personally I don't like this method, but have 
> heard that 
> >its
> > >effective.
> > >
> > >Now, if you remember, in my last 100 page mail about training, I 
> said 
> >that
> > >toys should be yours and you allow the dog to play, and remove 
> them when
> > >you
> > >want the game to stop, in the case of chewers, its slightly 
> amended.  
> >Have
> > >you heard of a Kong?  its like a cone shape toy made out of 
> rubber.  They
> > >are very strong, I demonstrate this by sticking my fingers in 
> one, and
> > >allowing my friends German Shepherd to bite down on the toy and 
> chew it!!
> > >If you get one of these, you can fill it with soft food, and 
> stick it in
> > >the
> > >freezer so the food gradually melts and keeps the dogs attention. 
>  this 
> >can
> > >get a bit messy, so put in dried food, that needs to be forced in 
> so its
> > >hard for the dog to remove.
> > >
> > >Another way, and this is only if you have the time, is 
> distraction
> > >training.
> > >If your there with the dog and can spot it starting to chew, try 
> and be
> > >just
> > >out side dogs line of vision, and call him/her.  Offer a treat or 
> reward
> > >when he comes to you, and then walk away.  This takes some time, 
> and alot
> > >of
> > >spying on the dog.  Try not to scold the dog if you spot him in 
> the act 
> >of
> > >chewing as this sometimes works the same way as with kids and 
> provides a
> > >negative feedback loop.
> > >
> > >Let me know if you have tried any of these already and if so, I 
> will 
> >check
> > >with my class and see what other offers I can get.
> > >
> > >David
> > >
> > >PS:  any online photos of your dog??  I would love to see them.
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Lillian [mailto:firefly@islc.net]
> > >Sent: 07 August 2000 14:31
> > >To: MOL
> > >Subject: [MOL] Dog Ob./ David
> > >
> > >
> > >David, you once gave expert advice on dogs.  The part about never 
> 
> >allowing
> > >your dog to be higher than you has worked very well.  Not easily 
> done all
> > >the time, we have a Great Dane.  May I ask for another piece of 
> your wise
> > >wisdom?  How does one get their dog to stop chewing on furniture; 
> etc.?
> > >Would appreciate your help, thanks, your friend, lillian
> > >
> > >
> > >We invite you to take a look at our Album.
> > >
> > >www.angelfire.com/sc/molangels/index.html
> > ><http://www.angelfire.com/sc/molangels/index.html>
> > >
> > >   ( Very informational, good tips, Molers pictures, art work and 
> much
> > >more....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
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