Re: FW: [MOL] David/joicey [01100] Medicine On Line

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Re: FW: [MOL] David/joicey

David, I think you hit dead on the key reason for these problems:
LAWSUITS! With potential disagreement between patient, various family
members, and the medical folks, things can get pretty complicated. And
money is the other. Though no one talks about it, here in the states you
see an eagerness to keep people alive when money is to be made for the
services, but when the money runs out, so do the heroic procedures. On
the flip side, no one wants to end up in court for hastening someone's

Re: organ donation, I don't  believe the family has to give permission
here, unless the dying person has not indicated their wishes on this. I
have indicated I do want any useful organs to go to whoever can use
them, and I would be very upset to think these wishes might go unheeded.
And I don't think my family -- however well-intended -- should be able
to over-ride my decision. But again, there may be a fear of unscrupulous
types rushing someone's death. It's a real balancing act, anything can
be abused.

Well I am jealous of your beach trip! We have Monday off also --
Memorial Day -- but they are forecasting stormy weather. Since we have
had about 10 days of that already, I would be happy to see sun! So have
fun for both of us. Love, Joicy

Whipps, David wrote:
> Hi Joicey
> It makes no sense to me at all why in cases where there is a specific
> request of "DNR" sometimes these wishes are over-ruled, and if a patient
> wants to be resuscitated, some may find "DNR" on their paperwork.
> When my sister died four years ago from a perforated bile duct, I went to
> great lengths in detailing what I wanted to happen to me should I be in a
> position of being kept alive artificially, only to be told my wishes may not
> be taken into consideration at the event.
> There is also a big issue over here about organ donors.  Is it the same in
> the States, and Canada where Dr's can not remove organs without consent of
> the family?  We have a donor list system over here accessible by all
> hospitals, and you need to carry a card to say you would like any organs
> donated, but even with these two forms of consent and confirmation, Dr's
> still need family permission to avoid the trusts being sued!  Is it just the
> UK or does this red tape spread over the world??
> Leaving you on a brighter note, its a bank holiday here on Monday, our
> second enforced long weekend of in May which hopefully if the weather holds
> I will be spending on the beach!!
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