Jeanne, I sure don't know, I guess we all have to be our own judges. I
enjoy soy milk and other soy products, it appears as soon as I find
something I like, I find out it is not good for me!!!! Even our water is
not pure, GADS! What a life! What do you take for your thyroid? love ya
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----- Original Message -----
From: JEANNE KISSINGER <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 8:28 AM
Subject: [MOL] Soy and babies
> Well, Lil, it is a question of which food is more dangerous! The best
> food for babies is human milk, There a LOT of reasons we should feed our
> babies, one interesting one is that human milk gives a cancer
> preventative effect to babies, plus give them essential protection
> against diseases and helps them build a better immune system. Soy is
> better in the bean as well and more tasty.
> Personally, I have been tested and I am not estrogen sensitive and I
> don't have a thryoid gland left. I am suspicious here are they are
> trying to get us to stick to our meat/milk diets?
> good morning to you, Jeanne
> > Lillian wrote:
> > Thyroid Disease: The Dangerous Downside of Soy Products
> > Dateline: 08/30/99
> > It seems that there's isn't a newspaper, magazine or news
> > program that hasn't recently featured a story on the
> > amazing health benefits of soy food products and
> > soy/isoflavone supplements. Soy is promoted as a healthy
> > alternative to estrogen replacement for some women, as a
> > possibly way to reduce the risk of breast cancer, as a
> > way to minimize menopause symptoms, and as a healthier,
> > low-fat protein alternative for meats and poultry. But
> > what all the positive stories fail to mention is that
> > there is a very real -- but very overlooked -- downside
> > to the heavy or long-term use of soy products.
> > Soy products increase the risk of thyroid disease. And
> > this danger is particularly great for infants on soy
> > formula.
> > This is not information that the powerful and profitable
> > U.S. soy industry wants you to know. The sale of soy
> > products is big business, and the increasing demand for
> > soy protein products, soy powders and soy isoflavone
> > supplements is making that an even more profitable
> > business than ever before.
> > In researching my upcoming book, which covers the issue
> > of soy products and the thyroid in great depth, I talked
> > to Dr. Mike Fitzpatrick, an environmental scientist and
> > phytoestrogen researcher who has conducted in-depth
> > studies on soy, particularly the use of soy formulas. Dr.
> > Fitzpatrick makes it clear that soy products can have a
> > detrminental affect on both adults and infants. In
> > particular, he firmly believe that soy formula
> > manufacturers should remove the isoflavones -- that part
> > of the soy products that act as anti-thyroid agents --
> > from their products.
> > Researchers have identified that the isoflavones act as
> > potent anti-thyroid agents, and are capable of
> > suppressing thyroid function, and causing or worsening
> > hypothyroidism. Soy is a phytoestrogen, and therefore
> > acts in the body much like a hormone, so it's no surprise
> > that it interacts with the delicate balance of the
> > thyroid's hormonal systems. High consumption of soy
> > products are also proven to cause goiter, (Anti-thyroid
> > isoflavones from soybean: isolation, characterization,
> > and mechanisms of action, Divi RL; Chang HC; Doerge DR,
> > National Center for Toxicological Research, Jefferson, AR
> > 72079, USA, Biochem Pharmacol, 1997 Nov, 54:10, 1087-96)
> > Note: The best source of information on
> > soy and its negative impact on health can
> > be found at the Soy Online Service, and in
> > particular, its page on phytoestrogenic
> > effects of soy, and impact on the thyroid.
> > Isoflavones belong to the flavonoid or bioflavonoid
> > family of chemicals, and are considered endocrine
> > disruptors -- plants or other products that act as
> > hormones, disrupting the endocrine system, and in some
> > cases, this disruption involves acting as an anti-thyroid
> > agent. (The grain millet, for example, contains high
> > levels of flavonoids, and is commonly known as
> > problematic for thyroid function). Flavonoids inhibit
> > thyroid peroxidase (TPO), which disturbs proper thyroid
> > function.
> > The March 1999 issue of Natural Health magazine has a
> > feature on soy that quotes Daniel R. Doerge, Ph.D., a
> > researcher at the Food and Drug Aministration's National
> > Center for Toxicological Research. Dr. Doerge has
> > researched soy's anti-thyroid properties, and has said
> > "...I see substantial risks from taking soy supplements
> > or eating huge amounts of soyfoods for their putative
> > disease preventive value. There is definitely potential
> > for interaction with the thyroid."
> > One UK study of premenopausal women gave 60 grams of soy
> > protein per day for one month. This was found to disrupt
> > the menstrual cycle, with the effects of the isoflavones
> > continuing for a full three months after stopping the soy
> > in the diet. Isoflavones are also known to modify
> > fertility and change sex hormone status. Isoflavones have
> > been shown to have serious health effects -- including
> > infertility, thyroid disease or liver disease -- on a
> > number of mammals.
> > Dr. Fitzpatrick believes that people with hypothyroidism
> > should avoid soy products, because, "any inhibition of
> > TPO will clearly work against anyone trying to correct an
> > hypothyroid state." In addition, he believes that the
> > current promotion of soy as a health food will result in
> > an increase in thyroid disorders.
> > The Dangers of Soy Formulas
> > Since the late 1950's, it has been known that soy
> > formulas contain anti-thyroid agents. Infants on soy
> > formula are particularly vulnerable to developing
> > autoimmune thyroid disease when exposed to high exposure
> > of isoflavones over time. ( Breast and soy-formula
> > feedings in early infancy and the prevalence of
> > autoimmune thyroid disease in children. Fort P; Moses N;
> > Fasano M; Goldberg T; Lifshitz F Department of
> > Pediatrics, North Shore University Hospital-Cornell
> > University Medical College, Manhasset, New York 11030. J
> > Am Coll Nutr, 1990 Apr, 9:2, 164-7) This study found that
> > the frequency of feedings with soy-based milk formulas in
> > early life was noticeably higher in children with
> > autoimmune thyroid disease, and thyroid problems were
> > almost triple in those soy formula-fed children compared
> > to their siblings and healthy unrelated children. Dr.
> > Fitzpatrick even believes that long-term feeding with soy
> > formulas inhibits TPO to such an extent that long-term
> > elevated TSH levels can also raise the risk of thyroid
> > cancer.
> > Not much is being done in the U.S. to make parents aware
> > of the thyroid-related dangers of soy formulas, or to
> > alert the public that heavy soy consumption may be a
> > danger to thyroid function. Other countries, however, are
> > far ahead of the U.S. In July of 1996, the British
> > Department of Health issued a warning that the
> > phytoestrogens found in soy-based infant formulas could
> > adversely affect infant health. The warning was clear,
> > indicating that soy formula should only be given to
> > babies on the advice of a health professional. They
> > advised that babies who cannot be breastfed or who have
> > allergies to other formulas be given alternatives to
> > soy-based formulas.
> > Why more information is not available about these
> > concerns is probably a function of the tremendous
> > strength of the large agricultural companies that
> > dominate America's soy market. One thing is clear,
> > however. At the same time that health experts, and nearly
> > every radio and television health program in the nation
> > touts soy as the miracle health food of the new
> > millenium, the United States pediatric and medical
> > community needs to get more on top of this issue, and
> > begin to counsel their patients regarding the serious
> > impact use of soy products can have on thyroid function.
> > How Much Soy is Safe?
> > According to the Soy Online Service, for infants, any soy
> > is too much. For adults, just 30 mg of soy isoflavones
> > per day is the amount found to have a negative impact on
> > thyroid function. This amount of soy isoflavones is found
> > in just 5-8 ounces of soy milk, or 1.5 ounces of miso.
> > For more information on how much soy is too much, see the
> > Soy Online Service guidance page.
> > The USDA has launched a website that is promoting the
> > health benefits of use of soy and soy foods. The USDA
> > site lists the isoflavone content of a total of 128
> > foods, including foods such as vegetarian hot dogs
> > soybeans, chickpeas and tofu. This can help you in
> > deciding how much soy to include in your diet.
> > More information
> > For more information on soy products, see:
> > * Soy Online Service
> > * Soy's Negative Impact on The Thyroid: Thyroid
> > Disease Net Links, a comprehensive listing I've
> > developed
> > * All About Soy, About.com's Nutrition Guide Rick
> > Hall's excellent list of soy-related resources
> > * Food and Drug Administration Approves New Health
> > Claim for Foods Containing Soy, October 1999 article
> > discussing this FDA approval, from About.com
> > Nutrition Guide, Rick Hall.
> > * Concerns Regarding Soybeans, from the Rheumatic
> > Diseases website
> > * Are Soy Products Dangerous?, from the Gerson Healing
> > Newsletter, Vol. 11, No. 5, Sep./Oct. 1997
> > * About.com's Vegetarian Guide covers "The Joy of Soy"
> > * Guide to Soy Isoflavones
> > * Soy to the World: A Guide to Incorporating Soy into
> > Your Diet
> > Warmly, lillian
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