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[MOL] conflict



Dear Martha and all molers,
I understand where you are coming from. I have been ignoring a lot of the bad behavior. Any time an individual brings in a third party in a conflict between two people it becomes dysfunctional unless the third party is a trained therapist or negotiator. The three then become what is known as the Karpman triangle. The victim, the persecutor and the Rescuer. The role continue to change at the language of miss communication continues. As more people are added to the conflict they start to take up teams and also switch team as the language continues.
SOUND LIKE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL OR AND ALCOHOLIC FAMILY SYSTEM? YOU ARE RIGHT. IT IS.
 
Assertive communication should be the rule here if you have a conflict or are confused about something talk with the individual directly about your confusion. Do not drag any one else into it. That only increased the confusion and led to very hurt feelings that are not necessary. Think before write your questions the simple wording a a  Question can mean the difference between loosing a friend and gaining information with out hurt.
 
Remember we are all part of Gods light. Would you speak to God as you speak to others? Are your words spoken in a manner to bring greater light to the sprit of God in each of us?
 
Understand that all the Individual here are under a great deal of stress. When anyone who is under the type of stress we've been under at one time or anouther will not  react or think with the clarity.  Make amends for being human. Admit that there was a better way of dealing with the problem. Forgive. Every one goofed up pay attention to the process of communication and you will understand what happened. If your are insecure about your questions and need further clarity that you would want to discuss it with some one else prior to approaching the person directly. You are probably not in the right place to deal with the problem at all Take it in to silence and Pray for guidance. If you still need assistance with decrement of the issues make sure the individual you speak to will be there to help you thing your question thorough. . To discern why the question is so important for you to ask.  (Is the concern from ego or a controlling place or a place centered in the light of God.) This person should also be able to assist you to find the best words to speak. 
 
There is a wise old alanon saying Principles above personalities.
 
Personally I have been grieving the communication that has been going on. Yet I know that I am far from perfect and get involved in issues that are personal to be with out thinking things though also. I pray that I will do it less in the future.
Peace Lori
-----Original Message-----
From: martha cerreto <home3@worldnet.att.net>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Cc: home3@worldnet.att.net <home3@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MOL] Hi

Dear Lori,
 
I signed off the list for a while.  I know several other people did too.  I signed back on, I guess in part, out of curiosity, and in part, out of dissatisfaction with what else is on the web that purports to be for similar things to what I felt, used to go on here.
 
Everything was so quiet for a long while,  that I wrote to inquire whether there was anyone left on the list.  I saw that 86 people were still on the list and was trying to get someone to talk.
 
I am not feeling as upset as I was, but I would like to see certain things happen.  I think Lil and Nancy owe everyone an apology for sending mail privately to others, which attempted to make each other look bad.  I also got a post which was sent privately by lil to someone else...from that person to Nanc and then to me.  I think sending other peoples' private correspondence with you or anybody else, ought to be frowned on.
 
I know I've been away, and perhaps have missed out on some discussion, but Nanc, if you  owe Nisi some money, I would like to know that it is in the mail--however small the amount may be.  I sent you a present because Don was sick again and I wanted to cheer you up.  I sent Kathy some flowers when she was in the hospital because I wanted to cheer her up.  I never asked anyone for any money even though I assumed that everyone on the list shared my wishes.  (And that was not because I have a lot of money.)
 
Nancy, I think you owe us a special apology for trying to hold everyone hostage about the web page.  I think you should put it back up and write to at least 3 people about how you do it, and how to maintain it.
 
Lillian, you can't say not to talk about these things.  You already have talked about these things to Nancy and I presume to Nisi.  You made a decision not to tell the rest of us...you kind of made a decision---I am the adult and you guys are the kids...but we are not kids.
 
Well, this is what I think, should be done.  If it has already been done, I'd appreciate getting sent a copy of the post.  
 
Hoping to come back, and see clarified relationships between a group of adults,  I am,
 
Martha 
-----Original Message-----
From: Lori and Tom Anderson-Finwall <ltaaf@ix.netcom.com>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MOL] Hi

I don't understand what do you mean taking back? Lori
-----Original Message-----
From: martha cerreto <home3@worldnet.att.net>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Cc: home3@worldnet.att.net <home3@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 9:36 AM
Subject: [MOL] Hi

Dear Molers,
 
Hi!  There are still 86 people signed on this list.  Is anybody interested in taking back this list?
 
What do you say?
 
Martha