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Re: [MOL] Warnning worst case



Dear Lori - I think consulting with an attorney would be an excellent idea.  As for me, I have made the decision not to remove my lung....it just does not feel right - there is still plenty of oxygen flowing from it and into it so I intend to leave it right there where it belongs.  Love and take care. Cori.

Lori and Tom Anderson-Finwall wrote:

 Thank you We will be consulting an attorney Dad had talked about it prior to his death. I would strongly advise that you get check out for sleep apnena. there are thing you can use at night if you have it to make sure you continue breathing. My father in law uses something. Sleep apneia is much more dangerous when you have one lung. Dad went in to arrest 2x befor he finaly died I feel he had apniea.Lori
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From: Stuart Scott Harth <charth@bellsouth.net>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Date: Thursday, May 27, 1999 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MOL] Warnning worst caseDear Lori - I was so sorry to hear about your Dad's passing, and how much he was put through - it sure sounds like a case of gross lack of care and ineptness.  I have recently been faced with making a decision as to whether to remove my cancerous lung or not...I just know that my doctor insisted on running the 5 tests I mentioned in order to assess the feasibility of undergoing such major surgery.  I find it very hard to believe your Dad's lung was removed without all kinds of pre-op evaluations....It is a highly risky procedure, particularly in a 70 year old man with cancer....Why on earth would they subject him to such a thing ??? Sounds to me like there was a scalpel-happy surgeon involved ....I am truly sorry and if I can be of any help, please do not hesitate to write.  Did you know that many thousands of people die each year of problems related to doctor-prescribed medications and adverse reactions to same....If you did some research you'd be horrified.  These statistics get swept under the carpet.  I too cannot take Codeine - had one really bad reaction after surgery to tie my tubes....it was horrible, I was awake for almost 3 days straight....if I closed my eyes I got terrible hallucinations....like the d't's people get apparently when they are trying to withdraw from alcohol.  It was horrible.  My deepest condolences. Cori.

Lori and Tom Anderson-Finwall wrote:

 Thanks for the Reply Cori,My father was living in a smaller town in ND. He found out he had lung cancer and had surgery 2 week later.  It is difficult He died. I was with him most of the time after surgery and the doc messed up on his medication. They took him off his antidepressant Cold turkey so he went in to withdrawls and was awake ro 4 days straight. They gave him Narcotic pane killers when they were told he has an atypical reaction to Codine ( ie increase anxiety) They gave him anti anxiety meds which cause further problems. I witnessed the surgan change his bandage with out using gloves or cleaning it. one day post op. Dad got cellulites a infection. (Staff or streap) he later developed an internal infection where his lung was removed.  he went in to respitory arrest 2x. lost his cognitive abilities ie time place and person.and finaly died. Needless to say I am angery I am a therpist I know about meds and I faught with the doc about the meds but it was too late. I feel they were neglgent in not deling with his anti depressant medication prior to surgery and no eveluating him for apneia.I have been wondering what other doc assess in thier pt prior to surgery?Lori
-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Scott Harth <charth@bellsouth.net>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MOL] pre sugercal assesment protcol?Dear Lori and Tom...I don't know exactly what you are asking, but somehow I get the impression someone, maybe one of your parents is contemplating having a lung removed.  This is my very humble opinion, but I would certainly look the situation over very, very extensively and get lots of second opinions.  I have quite a lot of experience in this particular respect, as I've been dealing with the prospect of lung removal for the past 2 years myself and have done much research in that area.
I recently was potentially being considered a candidate for just such a surgery and the tests that they considered absolutely essential in order to evaluate eligibility were:
1. Mediastinoscopy - to check for lymph node involvement - incision through neck to trachea and sternum area.
2.  Pulmonary function test
3. Qunatitative profusion Scan
4.  Cardiac ejection fraction
5. Echocardiogram.

I am no doctor, so I certainly would not even attempt to offer any medical advice, nor am I in a position to fully describe what all the above tests entail....but I do know that those were the tests that they were going to run on me in order to evaluate the viability of performing a lung removal ......Hope this helps.  I would definitely do a lot of research on the subject and would certainly as many questions and get more than one opinion.  That's just my opinion....Good luck.  Cori.

Lori and Tom Anderson-Finwall wrote:

 Hi all, What kind of a pre sugerical assessment left lung removal does a 70 year old have to go though? So they check for Sleep apniea ( the stoping to breathing during sleep for short peroids of time)?Lori Anderson