[MOL] Hi Joicy [02231] Medicine On Line


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[MOL] Hi Joicy




I would love to talk to you on our private line about your words to Marty
As a ordanied Minister and Evangelist,who has experienced four major attacks
of cancer,and my miracles alone,I am still here.And you are right,living is
way harder then dying.Love Frank










----- Original Message -----
From: Joicy <joicy@erols.com>
To: <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:47 PM
Subject: [MOL] Marty...


> While I understand where you are coming from, can I just point out that
> we are all strung a little different in terms of what is helpful or
> allows us hope? Some folks, I know, don't want to be told, but I am one
> that definitely DOES. In fact, my greatest conflicts with my onc have
> been when he has sugar-coated (and even lied) to "protect me" (like
> telling me during treatment that I was a stage I cancer when I knew damn
> well I was a stage II (which he later told me by accident). It makes me
> very angry and it makes me distrust them. It is a GIVEN that Drs. are
> not God. It is a GIVEN that there are limits to what they know. I just
> want to know what they know, and and hear it straight; knowing, for me,
> is not the equivalent of losing hope. For me, it's empowering. I know
> that statistics are just numbers, and I know who I belong to. And odds
> are just something that challenges me to beat them! Maybe it's because I
> am not afraid of death; it holds no power over me. It's the living that
> is hard!
>
> I don't ask you to agree with me, just that you don't make
> generalizations.  Marty, you wrote that "people of the cloth of faith,
> whether they are psychological experts or not, do not have
> hands on experience with debilitating conditions such as cancer and they
> have not been touched by miracles, as we have." That just plain isn't
> true or fair -- and I am saying that as "a person of the cloth"  AND one
> touched by numerous miracles.  As you yourself say, Marty, we are all
> different, and we all need to listen to that inner voice. I do not feel
> the need to avoid information to have hope, because my hope is not in
> the numbers or prognosis, but something greater.
>
> I hope I have not offended, but just felt I needed to articulate another
> perspective.
>
> Love, Joicy
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