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Re: [MOL] Questions/Martha



Oh Martha, you are so lucky you did not have the adrenal damage, I would not
wish this onn my worse enemy......I know synthroid can play some heavy mind
games along with prednesone.  It is said if you go off your steroids you
die, that you have to be weaned very slowly, that is if the glands start
functioning on their own.  Take care, God bless, your friend, lillian


-----Original Message-----
From: mjt8 <mjt8@ix.netcom.com>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Cc: mjt8 <mjt8@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MOL] Questions/Martha


>Hi Lillian!
>
>I used to take synthyroid but now take levoxyl.  This year, it will be 20
>years!  I didn't have any adrenal damage.
>
>Lots of Love,
>
>Martha
>-----Original Message-----
>From: firefly <firefly@islc.net>
>To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 6:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [MOL] Questions/Martha
>
>
>>Martha:  What are you taking for the thyroid?  Did you have any adrenal
>>damage from the non functioning thyroid?  Your friend, lillina
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: mjt8 <mjt8@ix.netcom.com>
>>To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>>Cc: mjt8 <mjt8@ix.netcom.com>
>>Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 12:48 PM
>>Subject: Re: [MOL] Questions
>>
>>
>>>Dear Cori,
>>>
>>>I don't know.  When I was 24 I had my thyroid gland removed.  They told
me
>>>there was surgery or something I could drink, and that the drink might
>>>effect my ability to have children, so I went for the surgery.
>Afterwards,
>>>the doc told me that the gland was precancerous, but that they had got it
>>in
>>>time.  I went out to Chicago to live and work.  I went to a
>endocrinologist
>>>out there for follow-up.  She said to me, can you explain something to
me,
>>>one of your pathology reports says you have cancer and the other says you
>>>don't.  Of course, I couldn't explain it to her.
>>>
>>>Since I was 18 years old, I had a fibroadenoma in each armpit.  I went
>>every
>>>year for an exam, and every year the docs told me it was nothing to worry
>>>about.  Nobody ever bothered to tell me that they were supposed to wax
and
>>>wane with my cycle; mine just stayed there.
>>>
>>>I came back to NY in the 1980s.  The fibroadenomas had gotten bigger and
I
>>>had developed a third lump.  So I had everything taken out.  This was
>1983;
>>>I was 28.  The slides were examined by a combination of breast surgeons
>and
>>>pathologists; at least 5.  Four were in NY and one from Washington
>>>University in St. Louis.  Some of them thought I had cancer and some of
>>them
>>>didn't.  I remember reading reports from one of them; he wrote about
>seeing
>>>questionable cells on one level and the next, nothing.  He actually put
>>>question marks in the report after writing this.
>>>
>>>>From 1983-90 I was treated for fibrocystic breast disease.  I had
several
>>>biopsies;  I don't remember how many--I think I blocked it out.  Anyway,
>>the
>>>most I got was atypical----.  In 1990, I had bloody discharge from my
left
>>>breast.  The doc said, we better do it this time, so I had a mastectomy.
>>>
>>>All through my young womanhood, I had all this hanging over my head.  I
>>>imagined the surgery like someone coming to disfigure me with an ax.  It
>>was
>>>so different from this.  But I felt it all anyway, because doctors are
too
>>>dumb to explain anything.  If anyone had said, it's more like unzipping a
>>>zipper and taking out a bunch of tissues, (in my case, not that many
>>>tissues), I think I probably would have still been so scared but it would
>>>have been a lot easier.
>>>
>>>I had seven years of good health and in 12/97 was diagnosed with a
>>>reoccurrence of breast cancer.  I also have mets to the bone, abdomen and
>>>lungs.  When asked by docs, on several occasions, to fill out forms about
>>>all the medicines I take and why, when asked about antidepressants, I
>would
>>>say something like "have had a fear of imminent death for about the past
>20
>>>years."
>>>
>>>Again, I am very glad for my antidepressants; because with them, I
>>strarted,
>>>this year, my second year of active, give 'em heck life with breast mets.
>>>Without them, I would spend my days, probably in bed with the covers over
>>my
>>>head, shaking in fear.
>>>
>>>I am on, what they call full replacement thyroid meds, because I don't
>have
>>>a thyroid gland.  I am glad they have this medicine too, because if I was
>>>somehow thrown back in time 1000 years, I'd be out of luck.  When they
>>>started the first reforms of psychiatric hospitals in France in--I don't
>>>remember when--but maybe even the 1800s, some people were there only
>>because
>>>they had thyroid problems.  I won't get into whether anyone on the list
>>>thinks I belong in the hospital anyway.
>>>
>>>I am glad there are meds for people with diabetes and other treatments
>that
>>>help keep it under control.  I am even glad for the discovery of
>>antibiotics
>>>so some colds can last one week rather than 2 or 3.
>>>
>>>I'm sorry to have rambled on so long.  There is no difference between
>>>chemicals proscribed for physical health and mental health, as long as
>they
>>>are proscribed by a qualified physician.  I am doing pretty well and
feel,
>>>as never before, on my cancering journey, a sense of inner peace and
>>>strength.  To that I attribute the love of my husband and son, my faith,
>>>church and priest, the good doctors I have now, and most definitely, my
>>>meds.  Without my antidepressants, I shudder to think of the stressful
>>>worrying that would overcome me and the ill effects such stress would
have
>>>on my health.
>>>
>>>I am not arguing this is for everybody, just that whatever our coping
>tools
>>>have been through life, we all stand before God as equals.
>>>
>>>Love and Hugs,
>>>
>>>Martha
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Stuart Scott Harth <charth@bellsouth.net>
>>>To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>>>Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 1:13 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [MOL] Questions
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dear Martha:
>>>>Somehow there must be a mis-communication somewhere...what I was
>referring
>>>to
>>>>was the fact that I've heard so much sadness, so much despair, so much
>>>>depression and so much anger, in different patients over the past couple
>>of
>>>>years, and so many have the need to take chemicals to alleviate their
>>>>symptoms...I have felt so blessed that somehow God has given me the
inner
>>>>resources not to feel desperate or depressed, and therefore have not
>>needed
>>>to
>>>>rely on pills to counteract them.  I feel truly, truly blessed because
of
>>>this.
>>>>Nowhere was it meant to imply that I disagreed with people taking pills
>to
>>>help
>>>>them. I agree with you totally that many drugs are critical to the very
>>>survival
>>>>of many, be it mental or physical.  I am just grateful that I have not
>>felt
>>>the
>>>>need..that was all.  No offence was taken...none intended on my part
>>>>either.Love. Cori.
>>>>
>>>>mjt8 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Cori,
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to think that way too--that taking pills was a sign that one
did
>>>not
>>>>> have the inner strength, resources, faith, etc.  My mom was a
>>psychiatric
>>>>> social worker and worked at one of the finest hospitals in the NY
area.
>>>I
>>>>> remember even talking to her  about shock treatment.  I think she had
>>>>> foolishly let me, my sister and a friend go see a movie called shock
>>>>> treatment; it scared the heck out of me.  I would always say, ma, how
>>>could
>>>>> that be good for anyone?  For some reason, I never mentioned the
movie;
>>>she
>>>>> would have laughed.  But she would always say, sometimes it's just
what
>>>>> someone needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, getting away from the shock treatment, sometimes people need
>>>>> antidepressants for some period of their lives for biochemical
reasons.
>>>>> Sometimes, and I suspect it's true for many on this list, they take
>them
>>>>> because they live, in what could only be compared to an almost
constant
>>>>> state of post-traumatic shock.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes, we get older and need a cane to walk up the hill towards
>>home.
>>>>> What's important is not how we get home to our families and loved ones
>>>who
>>>>> need us, it's that we get there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope you don't take offense; because none is intended.
>>>>>
>>>>> Love and Hugs,
>>>>>
>>>>> Martha
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Joicy Becker-Richards <joicy@erols.com>
>>>>> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>>>>> Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 6:45 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MOL] Questions
>>>>>
>>>>> >Dear Cori, sounds like we share a lot in common, with the central
>thing
>>>>> >being a strong faith. In my own cancer journey, God has managed to
>>bless
>>>>> >me in amazing ways, just as you mention. I look forward to some good
>>>>> >visits ahead! Love, joicy
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Stuart Scott Harth wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dear Joicy - the feeling is mutual...thanks for the kind words....I
>>>feel
>>>>> extremely
>>>>> >> blessed, particularly when I read others' posts about depression
and
>>>>> sadness and
>>>>> >> anger, because for some reason, God has truly blessed me with
either
>>>the
>>>>> inner
>>>>> >> resources, or the strength or the faith to travel this cancering
>>>journey
>>>>> without
>>>>> >> needing pills...I can't begin to desribe to you why, nor do I
>attempt
>>>to
>>>>> analyze it -
>>>>> >> and it's not denial - just an inner peace which keeps my spirits
>high
>>>and
>>>>> my attitude
>>>>> >> positive.  I thank Him every day for "recharging my batteries" so
to
>>>>> speak....I love
>>>>> >> life. I thank Him humbly for the quality of life I continue to
enjoy
>>>>> despite all the
>>>>> >> grim medical prognosis. And I thank Him even more for blessing me
>>with
>>>>> the love that
>>>>> >> surrounds me wherever I turn - I know He lead me to the molers
too -
>>>you
>>>>> are all such
>>>>> >> beautiful people and newbie that I am,  I feel blessed to be a part
>>of
>>>>> this
>>>>> >> wonderful  group....Love. Cori.
>>>>> >>
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