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Hi Lillian!

I used to take synthyroid but now take levoxyl.  This year, it will be 20
years!  I didn't have any adrenal damage.

Lots of Love,

Martha
-----Original Message-----
From: firefly <firefly@islc.net>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MOL] Questions/Martha


>Martha:  What are you taking for the thyroid?  Did you have any adrenal
>damage from the non functioning thyroid?  Your friend, lillina
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: mjt8 <mjt8@ix.netcom.com>
>To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>Cc: mjt8 <mjt8@ix.netcom.com>
>Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 12:48 PM
>Subject: Re: [MOL] Questions
>
>
>>Dear Cori,
>>
>>I don't know.  When I was 24 I had my thyroid gland removed.  They told me
>>there was surgery or something I could drink, and that the drink might
>>effect my ability to have children, so I went for the surgery.
Afterwards,
>>the doc told me that the gland was precancerous, but that they had got it
>in
>>time.  I went out to Chicago to live and work.  I went to a
endocrinologist
>>out there for follow-up.  She said to me, can you explain something to me,
>>one of your pathology reports says you have cancer and the other says you
>>don't.  Of course, I couldn't explain it to her.
>>
>>Since I was 18 years old, I had a fibroadenoma in each armpit.  I went
>every
>>year for an exam, and every year the docs told me it was nothing to worry
>>about.  Nobody ever bothered to tell me that they were supposed to wax and
>>wane with my cycle; mine just stayed there.
>>
>>I came back to NY in the 1980s.  The fibroadenomas had gotten bigger and I
>>had developed a third lump.  So I had everything taken out.  This was
1983;
>>I was 28.  The slides were examined by a combination of breast surgeons
and
>>pathologists; at least 5.  Four were in NY and one from Washington
>>University in St. Louis.  Some of them thought I had cancer and some of
>them
>>didn't.  I remember reading reports from one of them; he wrote about
seeing
>>questionable cells on one level and the next, nothing.  He actually put
>>question marks in the report after writing this.
>>
>>>From 1983-90 I was treated for fibrocystic breast disease.  I had several
>>biopsies;  I don't remember how many--I think I blocked it out.  Anyway,
>the
>>most I got was atypical----.  In 1990, I had bloody discharge from my left
>>breast.  The doc said, we better do it this time, so I had a mastectomy.
>>
>>All through my young womanhood, I had all this hanging over my head.  I
>>imagined the surgery like someone coming to disfigure me with an ax.  It
>was
>>so different from this.  But I felt it all anyway, because doctors are too
>>dumb to explain anything.  If anyone had said, it's more like unzipping a
>>zipper and taking out a bunch of tissues, (in my case, not that many
>>tissues), I think I probably would have still been so scared but it would
>>have been a lot easier.
>>
>>I had seven years of good health and in 12/97 was diagnosed with a
>>reoccurrence of breast cancer.  I also have mets to the bone, abdomen and
>>lungs.  When asked by docs, on several occasions, to fill out forms about
>>all the medicines I take and why, when asked about antidepressants, I
would
>>say something like "have had a fear of imminent death for about the past
20
>>years."
>>
>>Again, I am very glad for my antidepressants; because with them, I
>strarted,
>>this year, my second year of active, give 'em heck life with breast mets.
>>Without them, I would spend my days, probably in bed with the covers over
>my
>>head, shaking in fear.
>>
>>I am on, what they call full replacement thyroid meds, because I don't
have
>>a thyroid gland.  I am glad they have this medicine too, because if I was
>>somehow thrown back in time 1000 years, I'd be out of luck.  When they
>>started the first reforms of psychiatric hospitals in France in--I don't
>>remember when--but maybe even the 1800s, some people were there only
>because
>>they had thyroid problems.  I won't get into whether anyone on the list
>>thinks I belong in the hospital anyway.
>>
>>I am glad there are meds for people with diabetes and other treatments
that
>>help keep it under control.  I am even glad for the discovery of
>antibiotics
>>so some colds can last one week rather than 2 or 3.
>>
>>I'm sorry to have rambled on so long.  There is no difference between
>>chemicals proscribed for physical health and mental health, as long as
they
>>are proscribed by a qualified physician.  I am doing pretty well and feel,
>>as never before, on my cancering journey, a sense of inner peace and
>>strength.  To that I attribute the love of my husband and son, my faith,
>>church and priest, the good doctors I have now, and most definitely, my
>>meds.  Without my antidepressants, I shudder to think of the stressful
>>worrying that would overcome me and the ill effects such stress would have
>>on my health.
>>
>>I am not arguing this is for everybody, just that whatever our coping
tools
>>have been through life, we all stand before God as equals.
>>
>>Love and Hugs,
>>
>>Martha
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Stuart Scott Harth <charth@bellsouth.net>
>>To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>>Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 1:13 PM
>>Subject: Re: [MOL] Questions
>>
>>
>>>Dear Martha:
>>>Somehow there must be a mis-communication somewhere...what I was
referring
>>to
>>>was the fact that I've heard so much sadness, so much despair, so much
>>>depression and so much anger, in different patients over the past couple
>of
>>>years, and so many have the need to take chemicals to alleviate their
>>>symptoms...I have felt so blessed that somehow God has given me the inner
>>>resources not to feel desperate or depressed, and therefore have not
>needed
>>to
>>>rely on pills to counteract them.  I feel truly, truly blessed because of
>>this.
>>>Nowhere was it meant to imply that I disagreed with people taking pills
to
>>help
>>>them. I agree with you totally that many drugs are critical to the very
>>survival
>>>of many, be it mental or physical.  I am just grateful that I have not
>felt
>>the
>>>need..that was all.  No offence was taken...none intended on my part
>>>either.Love. Cori.
>>>
>>>mjt8 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Cori,
>>>>
>>>> I used to think that way too--that taking pills was a sign that one did
>>not
>>>> have the inner strength, resources, faith, etc.  My mom was a
>psychiatric
>>>> social worker and worked at one of the finest hospitals in the NY area.
>>I
>>>> remember even talking to her  about shock treatment.  I think she had
>>>> foolishly let me, my sister and a friend go see a movie called shock
>>>> treatment; it scared the heck out of me.  I would always say, ma, how
>>could
>>>> that be good for anyone?  For some reason, I never mentioned the movie;
>>she
>>>> would have laughed.  But she would always say, sometimes it's just what
>>>> someone needs.
>>>>
>>>> Well, getting away from the shock treatment, sometimes people need
>>>> antidepressants for some period of their lives for biochemical reasons.
>>>> Sometimes, and I suspect it's true for many on this list, they take
them
>>>> because they live, in what could only be compared to an almost constant
>>>> state of post-traumatic shock.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes, we get older and need a cane to walk up the hill towards
>home.
>>>> What's important is not how we get home to our families and loved ones
>>who
>>>> need us, it's that we get there.
>>>>
>>>> I hope you don't take offense; because none is intended.
>>>>
>>>> Love and Hugs,
>>>>
>>>> Martha
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joicy Becker-Richards <joicy@erols.com>
>>>> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>>>> Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 6:45 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MOL] Questions
>>>>
>>>> >Dear Cori, sounds like we share a lot in common, with the central
thing
>>>> >being a strong faith. In my own cancer journey, God has managed to
>bless
>>>> >me in amazing ways, just as you mention. I look forward to some good
>>>> >visits ahead! Love, joicy
>>>> >
>>>> >Stuart Scott Harth wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear Joicy - the feeling is mutual...thanks for the kind words....I
>>feel
>>>> extremely
>>>> >> blessed, particularly when I read others' posts about depression and
>>>> sadness and
>>>> >> anger, because for some reason, God has truly blessed me with either
>>the
>>>> inner
>>>> >> resources, or the strength or the faith to travel this cancering
>>journey
>>>> without
>>>> >> needing pills...I can't begin to desribe to you why, nor do I
attempt
>>to
>>>> analyze it -
>>>> >> and it's not denial - just an inner peace which keeps my spirits
high
>>and
>>>> my attitude
>>>> >> positive.  I thank Him every day for "recharging my batteries" so to
>>>> speak....I love
>>>> >> life. I thank Him humbly for the quality of life I continue to enjoy
>>>> despite all the
>>>> >> grim medical prognosis. And I thank Him even more for blessing me
>with
>>>> the love that
>>>> >> surrounds me wherever I turn - I know He lead me to the molers too -
>>you
>>>> are all such
>>>> >> beautiful people and newbie that I am,  I feel blessed to be a part
>of
>>>> this
>>>> >> wonderful  group....Love. Cori.
>>>> >>
>>>>
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