Re: [MOL] My prostate is already gone martin [01293] Medicine On Line


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Re: [MOL] My prostate is already gone martin



Marty:  I believe Frank has already had prostate surgery, if I recall from
his original message when he first signed on.  So the subject is sort of
mute for him.....lillian


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Auslander <fitecancer@earthlink.net>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>; Frank Cromie
<fmc@ndak.net>
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MOL] My prostate is already gone martin


>Dear Frank,
>
>I don't mean to be argumentative. I just wish to support. So hope you
>don't mind if I send another suggestion your way. I assume your Doc is
>NOT an Oncologist but rather a Urologist. May I suggest, before you
>contemplate any surgical procedure like that, that you seek a 2nd
>opinion from an Oncologist. Just my view. Also as LIl pointed out, you
>may learn about the side effects of this procedure by calling the NCI at
>1-800-4cancer. If the malignancy is locate or incapsulated in the
>prostate you will find that protocal of treatment is to remove prostate.
>But if the malignancy or cells is out of the capsule or prostate then
>surgery is not an option but rather ask him about Lupron and casadix.
>Lupron has worked well for Prostate malignancies that are stage 2 and
>higher. Its best to seek 2nd opinions on this as it is any malignancy.
>Just a suggestion my friend. and who said you werent a stud?
>
>God Bless
>marty
>
>Frank Cromie wrote:
>>
>> My doctor told me this."You are still young,you have 15 or more years
>> left.Your cancer is located in a small area.There is no sign that it has
>> left the prostate area.My advice to you would be to GET RID OF IT.So far
>> other treatments are not that reliable.The same went for my right
kidney.I
>> had rcc.It was large and growing (Tumor)Lets get rid of it.Why take the
>> chance with other treatments that may or may not work. Now everyone has
to
>> make up their own minds as to the type of treatment they want to
have.That
>> was my choice,and I feel the best one.Now I am no longer the STUD,I used
to
>> be,but I am still alive,and my wife feels that being together is moe
>> important then sex.Frank Cromie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Auslander <fitecancer@earthlink.net>
>> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 5:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MOL] Prostrate cancer seed treatment
>>
>> >Dear Kathy,
>> >
>> >What the  doctor told Frank was this. If you are healthy, then cut out
>> >the prostate because you may be ill one day, meaning he may or men may
>> >have prostate cancer. That is as far from the truth as one can imagine.
>> >I am just voicing an opinion of hope to Frank because his emotions are
>> >fragile anyway and here comes a doctor to tell him that if a man is
>> >healthy he should get rid of a prostate. Yeahhh sure. Why not  cut off
>> >the t.......es. also. Just my opinion and I want to reassure FRank that
>> >he has enough concerns  without being concerned about getting rid of
>> >something that is necessary for him and all men. I think that is the way
>> >I read his message.
>> >
>> >God Bles
>> >marty
>> >
>> >> kcorrigan@chgw.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm sorry, fellows.  I missed something.  I was just thinking that the
>> >> doctor was doing the right thing. I guess I don't know much about
>> >> anatomy.  Please forgive my insensitivity!  Love, Kathy
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
>> >> [mailto:owner-mol-cancer@lists.meds.com]On Behalf Of Martin Auslander
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 9:58 AM
>> >> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com; Frank Cromie
>> >> Subject: Re: [MOL] Prostrate cancer seed treatment
>> >>
>> >> YOu know what Frank,
>> >>
>> >> Its like saying to woman,  to cut off breasts because there maybe a
>> >> genetic chance of you getting breast cancer. That statement by a
>> >> doctor
>> >> is absurd and cruel. Cutting out prostates is not the same as cutting
>> >> out an appendix. Prostates provides men with basic functions as an
>> >> organ. It is not meant to be cut out, that is why God gave us one.
>> >> HOwever, in stage I diagnosis of a malignancy, there maybe some cause
>> >> to
>> >> do so, but when a doctor or anyone tells any of us to cut out anything
>> >>
>> >> in our body on the premise that it is not serving a purpose or that
>> >> its
>> >> not necessary, then I get my ire up. Thats cruel and insensitive. Ask
>> >> your Doc if he is prepared to cut out his prostate. See what the reply
>> >>
>> >> is. I think we had enough of those experiments during world war II.
>> >>
>> >> God Bless
>> >> marty
>> >>
>> >> Frank Cromie wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Let me tell you what my doctor told me."If you are in good
>> >> health,and in
>> >> > your fifties or so,GET RID OF THAT PROSTATE"Cut it out,throw it
>> >> away.All
>> >> > other treatments do not have that good of a track record.If the
>> >> cancer is
>> >> > small in size,and is localized in one area,get rid of it..Frank
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: ChevieCat@AOL.COM <ChevieCat@AOL.COM>
>> >> > To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>> >> > Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 9:21 AM
>> >> > Subject: [MOL] Prostrate cancer seed treatment
>> >> >
>> >> > >Please advise on information on seed treatment for prostrate
>> >> > >cancer    thank you.
>> >> >
>> >>
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