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Re: [MOL] Re: Vicci



Dear Lillian,
You were much kinder to Rich than he deserves but it does help me to put it
all in perspective.  I'm in agreement with Liz......I don't have time for
someone who has already damaged theirselves with drugs and now won't listen
to the good advice from Dr's., parents, friends.  BUT...he just came back
from the river WITH his girlfriend and their daughter and I had a low key,
hit below the belt, talk with him.  He was respectful and listened and I
hope, learned, that this behavior will NOT be tolerated.  My Mom also has a
colostomy because of "short bowel syndrome"  lost when they didn't do
surgery on her fast enough because of a kinked bowel.  I talked alot about
how she manages her illness and the way she treats people.  I told him he
has no right to be obstinate and that if it continued he would be asked to
leave.  I think I really have to be tough with this guy.  That's how it was
with his drugs.  He was NOT welcome here.  Although he would tell anyone
that his parents would always be there for him.  That is not true.  We were
all very sick of him.
Anyway, he took it well and will be reminded of inappropriate behavior as
soon as it starts from now on.  Tough love for him and off the pity pot, I
say.
LOL    You are great.   Much love   Vicci

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> From: lillian jennings <firefly@islc.net>
> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> Subject: Re: [MOL] Re: Vicci
> Date: Sunday, July 19, 1998 4:38 PM
> 
> Vicci, you know young people never think that they could dye and they
flirt with
> death under this belief.  Now your son has learned that indeed he could
have
> died and is just terribly scarred of it.  He could be covering his fear's
with
> an attitude; so I do believe counseling is an excellent idea.  This could
also
> help him stay off of drugs also.  He is feeling sorry for himself (we
have a
> nick name for that sitting on the pity pot) coined by our dear John. 
This is
> something we all do from time to time, it is natural; as there are many
> adjustments that must be made, many decisions and so forth.  The rest of
you
> will have to play tough love, I love you; but I don't like what you are
doing"
> Keep the statements short and sweet; but firm and stick to what you have
said.
> Make sure everyone in the household is in agreement.  Meanwhile and it
will take
> some time, you know you have us to learn on, that we understand venting
and that
> we will keep you all in our prayers.  Oh, by the way, you have a normal
family
> in this day and age.  God bless, your friend, Lillian
> 
> Vicci Ewen wrote:
> 
> > Dear Carla,
> > There are no paperclips beside the envelope.  Some just come in and
some I
> > have to hit the "reply to author" button.  I'm going to check with my
> > server.
> > I haven't seen a download button anywhere.  Remember I'm pretty new to
this
> > computer stuff.  But it sure does facinate me.  Love Vicci
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: ken naehring <blessu@worldnet.att.net>
> > > To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> > > Subject: [MOL] Re: Vicci
> > > Date: Saturday, July 18, 1998 9:45 PM
> > >
> > > Is it possible that you have a paperclip to open this as an
attachment,
> > or a
> > > download button or something???  Many of the email services do
something
> > > different so I can't tell you exactly, but you may want to check
under
> > your
> > > email questions for attachment information.... Love you, Carla
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vicci Ewen <vicci@wave.net>
> > > To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, July 18, 1998 10:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MOL] Re TO ALL MEMBERS FOR YOUR USE !
> > >
> > >
> > > >Dear Lillian,  I've mentioned this before but.....upon opening your
> > mail,
> > > >nothing is there.  I have to hit Reply To and then I see your
message.
> > Do
> > > >you think anyone else is having this problem?  I used to have to
skip
> > over
> > > >your empty msgs (only a couple of times, cuz that drives me crazy. I
> > have
> > > >to know what your saying) until I hit the "reply to author" button
and
> > > >there you are.  Anyone else having this problem?  Or just me?    The
> > letter
> > > >to the new ones on MOL must be read.  It's to valuable to be missed.
 So
> > I
> > > >thought I would mention it once again.    Thanks    Vicci
> > > >
> > > >----------
> > > >> From: LILLIAN JENNINGS <firefly@islc.net>
> > > >> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> > > >> Subject: [MOL] Re TO ALL MEMBERS FOR YOUR USE !
> > > >> Date: Thursday, July 16, 1998 7:53 PM
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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