Dear Lil,
I am very grateful for you message. Thank you.
God Bless
marty
firefly wrote:
>
> That was good Marty, made it really easy to understand. Infact all evening
> you have been writing some excellent information for us to live and learn
> by. Thanks for always giving so much of yourself to all of us that lean on
> you. Sis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Auslander <fitecancer@earthlink.net>
> To: Medical On Line Forum <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
> Date: Sunday, April 19, 1998 12:20 AM
> Subject: [MOL] Just an opinion about health, vitamins, foods and supplements
>
> >Food and vitamins for thought and good health tips in reply to some of
> >
> >the conversations here about same.
> >
> >
> >
> >Jeanne, Lil, Diana, Carla and all. These are some basic and thoughts
> >
> >about vitamins and supplements. Think about this for a minute. If you
> >
> >ate nothing at all and just ingested vitamins and supplements they would
> >
> >do nothing but cause much toxicity and acidity to vital organs. That
> >
> >includes all the things that Jeanne mentioned,as we also are on most of
> >
> >what she is taking in her daily routine. The key is this. that all
> >
> >these are, vitamins are supplements. enzymes are supplements and
> >
> >supplements are supplements. They are not to be ingested as a substitute
> >
> >for the dietary needs and foods that are necessary for them to
> >
> >supplement. In other words, if Jeanne and Barb is taking 16 grams,
> >
> >(16,000 mg) of vitam C (abscobic acid) daily without having some vitamin
> >
> >c in the diet, then the vitamin c supplement may harm or build up
> >
> >toxicity. That goes for any supplement and vitamin. Jeanne is absolutely
> >
> >right about when the body tells you enough is enough or to back off and
> >
> >by the way Jeanne, I have learned that when the body is telling you to
> >
> >back off it means you are healing. I was told that by the vitamin c
> >
> >foundation.
> >
> >
> >
> >The daily recommended dietary needs are 5-9 green and other nutritious
> >
> >vetables and fruits a day. That is what the supplements work best for.
> >
> >to supplement those daily dietary needs to keep the immune system
> >
> >healthy.
> >
> >
> >
> >Another thought or tip is the liver is the only regenerating organ in
> >
> >the body. Milk thistle is a supplement to cleanse the liver and help
> >
> >avoid cancer, but it works better if a beet a day is ingested, whether
> >
> >raw or steamed or juiced, as it is the best to cleanse and detxofy the
> >
> >liver.
> >
> >
> >
> >Another thought. I have heard mention and read that vitamins, and
> >
> >supplements may cause toxicity. This is not as concerning as the great
> >
> >amount of toxicity build up in our body from the many years of foods
> >
> >that are not condusive to good health, like fats, sugars, excess of
> >
> >meats, (beef, pork and chickens)
> >
> >
> >
> >A Tip, in order to detoxify the vital organs and colon besides a daily
> >
> >regimen of 5-9 essential vegatables and fruit also include brown rice
> >
> >and home made pinto or kidney beans. We have included all in our daily
> >
> >regimen, of course utilizing the many recipes which are available and
> >
> >tasty and toxity is not a problem. The way you know that detoxification
> >
> >process is taking place as a result of this regimen of diet is: YOu find
> >
> >yourself being more regular, energetic, active and less tired, more
> >
> >alert, etc. We experiene that.
> >
> >
> >
> >Another tip: When you include those above, then learn to understand why
> >
> >the processed white flour is not good as opposed to wheat flour, and
> >
> >learn why meats, chickens and pork is not healthy as opposed to fish,
> >
> >wild game, and lamb.
> >
> >
> >
> >HOpe this helps. I know that some may not agree, but this is based on
> >
> >our experience, the many books read, the programs we have attended and
> >
> >researched. I find that the quality of life is so much more rewarding as
> >
> >a result of the lifestyle change that we undertook in order to beat
> >
> >cancer. I know as well that this regimen need not be a chore and
> >
> >everyting in moderation, but I will also say that the benefits are
> >
> >there, from a medical and emotional viewpoint.
> >
> >
> >
> >God Bless
> >
> >marty auslander
> >
> >
> >
> >firefly wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I believe that I have seen warnings whereby vitamins can build up in your
> >
> >> system and become toxins also, does anyone know about this? Thanks,
> Lillian
> >
> >>
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >
> >> From: james kissinger <jkissing@uvic.ca>
> >
> >> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
> >
> >> Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 1:25 AM
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [MOL] Jeanne K.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> >Diana, thanks for the note. Yes, the older we get, the better things
> were
> >
> >> >back "then".. About vitamins. My family doctor referred me to Dr Hoffer
> (MD
> >
> >> >75 years of age) (orthomolecular specialist)here in Victoria, BC. James
> >
> >> >says he has a web page.The oncologists here do not approve of him but
> GPs
> >
> >> >still send patients to him. I don't think he ever says he will cure you
> but
> >
> >> >he does believe we can work toward our own wellness. I take Ascorbic
> Acid
> >
> >> >about 16 grams a day (varies up to 24 but if I get diarrhea, back off),
> 3
> >
> >> >grams are timed release (3 x a day) B Vitamins 50 mcg multi tab with
> >
> >> >minerals, plus extra of Niacin, folic acid, selenium, vit E,
> caretinoids.
> >
> >> >maganese chelate. I asked for shark cartilage at the time of our visit
> and
> >
> >> >he was not too keen but said if I wanted some cartilage why not try beef
> >
> >> >cartilage so I take that as well. Very tempted to discontinue this one.
> Not
> >
> >> >on his program, I a;sp take Kyloric garlic, ginseng, gingko, CoQ10,
> grape
> >
> >> >seed extract (I will switch to the activm type) and flax seeds. And
> Essaic,
> >
> >> >I decided on this as it contains native herbs. I am thinking of adding
> what
> >
> >> >Ann Frahme recommends esp. pancreatic enzymes. I think others could
> >
> >> >recommend something else. These are SUPPLEMENTS. I am still in the
> process
> >
> >> >of switching to healthier foods and it is HARD. James is already a
> >
> >> >vegetarian and our daughter Cathy now will not eat anything that has a
> >
> >> >face, (I gather Chickens and turkeys don't count). We hope that the body
> >
> >> >will take what it needs for healing. Taking the Vitamin C certainly
> speeds
> >
> >> >passage through the intestines and I am thinking this is good for the
> body,
> >
> >> >Any thoughts on this? I believe Dr Hoffer says that all the supplements
> >
> >> >(and Essaic) must be discontinued during chemo but can be restored
> during
> >
> >> >respites.
> >
> >> >Cheers, Jeanne K
> >
> >> >
>
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