That was good Marty, made it really easy to understand. Infact all evening
you have been writing some excellent information for us to live and learn
by. Thanks for always giving so much of yourself to all of us that lean on
you. Sis
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From: Martin Auslander <fitecancer@earthlink.net>
To: Medical On Line Forum <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Date: Sunday, April 19, 1998 12:20 AM
Subject: [MOL] Just an opinion about health, vitamins, foods and supplements
>Food and vitamins for thought and good health tips in reply to some of
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>the conversations here about same.
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>Jeanne, Lil, Diana, Carla and all. These are some basic and thoughts
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>about vitamins and supplements. Think about this for a minute. If you
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>ate nothing at all and just ingested vitamins and supplements they would
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>do nothing but cause much toxicity and acidity to vital organs. That
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>includes all the things that Jeanne mentioned,as we also are on most of
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>what she is taking in her daily routine. The key is this. that all
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>these are, vitamins are supplements. enzymes are supplements and
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>supplements are supplements. They are not to be ingested as a substitute
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>for the dietary needs and foods that are necessary for them to
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>supplement. In other words, if Jeanne and Barb is taking 16 grams,
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>(16,000 mg) of vitam C (abscobic acid) daily without having some vitamin
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>c in the diet, then the vitamin c supplement may harm or build up
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>toxicity. That goes for any supplement and vitamin. Jeanne is absolutely
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>right about when the body tells you enough is enough or to back off and
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>by the way Jeanne, I have learned that when the body is telling you to
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>back off it means you are healing. I was told that by the vitamin c
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>foundation.
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>The daily recommended dietary needs are 5-9 green and other nutritious
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>vetables and fruits a day. That is what the supplements work best for.
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>to supplement those daily dietary needs to keep the immune system
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>healthy.
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>Another thought or tip is the liver is the only regenerating organ in
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>the body. Milk thistle is a supplement to cleanse the liver and help
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>avoid cancer, but it works better if a beet a day is ingested, whether
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>raw or steamed or juiced, as it is the best to cleanse and detxofy the
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>liver.
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>Another thought. I have heard mention and read that vitamins, and
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>supplements may cause toxicity. This is not as concerning as the great
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>amount of toxicity build up in our body from the many years of foods
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>that are not condusive to good health, like fats, sugars, excess of
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>meats, (beef, pork and chickens)
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>A Tip, in order to detoxify the vital organs and colon besides a daily
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>regimen of 5-9 essential vegatables and fruit also include brown rice
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>and home made pinto or kidney beans. We have included all in our daily
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>regimen, of course utilizing the many recipes which are available and
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>tasty and toxity is not a problem. The way you know that detoxification
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>process is taking place as a result of this regimen of diet is: YOu find
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>yourself being more regular, energetic, active and less tired, more
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>alert, etc. We experiene that.
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>Another tip: When you include those above, then learn to understand why
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>the processed white flour is not good as opposed to wheat flour, and
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>learn why meats, chickens and pork is not healthy as opposed to fish,
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>wild game, and lamb.
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>HOpe this helps. I know that some may not agree, but this is based on
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>our experience, the many books read, the programs we have attended and
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>researched. I find that the quality of life is so much more rewarding as
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>a result of the lifestyle change that we undertook in order to beat
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>cancer. I know as well that this regimen need not be a chore and
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>everyting in moderation, but I will also say that the benefits are
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>there, from a medical and emotional viewpoint.
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>God Bless
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>marty auslander
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>firefly wrote:
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>> I believe that I have seen warnings whereby vitamins can build up in your
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>> system and become toxins also, does anyone know about this? Thanks,
Lillian
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>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: james kissinger <jkissing@uvic.ca>
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>> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
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>> Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 1:25 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [MOL] Jeanne K.
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>>
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>> >Diana, thanks for the note. Yes, the older we get, the better things
were
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>> >back "then".. About vitamins. My family doctor referred me to Dr Hoffer
(MD
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>> >75 years of age) (orthomolecular specialist)here in Victoria, BC. James
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>> >says he has a web page.The oncologists here do not approve of him but
GPs
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>> >still send patients to him. I don't think he ever says he will cure you
but
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>> >he does believe we can work toward our own wellness. I take Ascorbic
Acid
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>> >about 16 grams a day (varies up to 24 but if I get diarrhea, back off),
3
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>> >grams are timed release (3 x a day) B Vitamins 50 mcg multi tab with
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>> >minerals, plus extra of Niacin, folic acid, selenium, vit E,
caretinoids.
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>> >maganese chelate. I asked for shark cartilage at the time of our visit
and
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>> >he was not too keen but said if I wanted some cartilage why not try beef
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>> >cartilage so I take that as well. Very tempted to discontinue this one.
Not
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>> >on his program, I a;sp take Kyloric garlic, ginseng, gingko, CoQ10,
grape
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>> >seed extract (I will switch to the activm type) and flax seeds. And
Essaic,
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>> >I decided on this as it contains native herbs. I am thinking of adding
what
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>> >Ann Frahme recommends esp. pancreatic enzymes. I think others could
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>> >recommend something else. These are SUPPLEMENTS. I am still in the
process
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>> >of switching to healthier foods and it is HARD. James is already a
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>> >vegetarian and our daughter Cathy now will not eat anything that has a
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>> >face, (I gather Chickens and turkeys don't count). We hope that the body
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>> >will take what it needs for healing. Taking the Vitamin C certainly
speeds
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>> >passage through the intestines and I am thinking this is good for the
body,
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>> >Any thoughts on this? I believe Dr Hoffer says that all the supplements
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>> >(and Essaic) must be discontinued during chemo but can be restored
during
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>> >respites.
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>> >Cheers, Jeanne K
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>> >
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