Marty, I love reading your messages, I am beginning to think that a day
without Marty is like a day without sunshine. (you may blush!) You must be
so self-depreciating because your mother bragged about you so much!
Please emphasize again that I do not expect supplements alone to cure me of
cancer but rather it is one weapon in the arsenal of cancer fighters. I
always take my supplements with food (only the best) spread out about 5
times a day if possible. Lots of water is essential.
Marty, I hated carrot juice by the way but adding beet to it makes it seem
smoother. Don't know if anyone has mentioned this but eating the whole
veggie (pulp) must be better than drinking just the juice. There a lot of
nutritients in the skin of fruits and veg. This reminds me of an
embarrasing moment in our married lives. We were invited to a pot-luck and
I made potato salad, leaving on the skins. We were the only ones eating it!
Our dinner was a meal with chicken, (skin off or on as long as you don't
eat it) baked in the oven along with potatoes (low fat sour cream is great)
and squash and a big salad with romaine, spinach, kale, cuc, carrot,
cauliflowers, tomatoes or any veg we can find in the frig. We use low cal
salad dressings or make our own. We often cook brown rice this way,
seasoned with herbs or onion.
Marty, I will add milk thistle to the above.
Thanks for the note on vitamin C, very encouraging. By the way, I still am
feeling the need for a nap as what with all the water, I am up 3 to 4 times
a night but still drinking another glass each time.
God Bless, Jeanne K
At 09:09 PM 4/18/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Food and vitamins for thought and good health tips in reply to some of
>
>the conversations here about same.
>
>
>
>Jeanne, Lil, Diana, Carla and all. These are some basic and thoughts
>
>about vitamins and supplements. Think about this for a minute. If you
>
>ate nothing at all and just ingested vitamins and supplements they would
>
>do nothing but cause much toxicity and acidity to vital organs. That
>
>includes all the things that Jeanne mentioned,as we also are on most of
>
>what she is taking in her daily routine. The key is this. that all
>
>these are, vitamins are supplements. enzymes are supplements and
>
>supplements are supplements. They are not to be ingested as a substitute
>
>for the dietary needs and foods that are necessary for them to
>
>supplement. In other words, if Jeanne and Barb is taking 16 grams,
>
>(16,000 mg) of vitam C (abscobic acid) daily without having some vitamin
>
>c in the diet, then the vitamin c supplement may harm or build up
>
>toxicity. That goes for any supplement and vitamin. Jeanne is absolutely
>
>right about when the body tells you enough is enough or to back off and
>
>by the way Jeanne, I have learned that when the body is telling you to
>
>back off it means you are healing. I was told that by the vitamin c
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>foundation.
>
>
>
>The daily recommended dietary needs are 5-9 green and other nutritious
>
>vetables and fruits a day. That is what the supplements work best for.
>
>to supplement those daily dietary needs to keep the immune system
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>healthy.
>
>
>
>Another thought or tip is the liver is the only regenerating organ in
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>the body. Milk thistle is a supplement to cleanse the liver and help
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>avoid cancer, but it works better if a beet a day is ingested, whether
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>raw or steamed or juiced, as it is the best to cleanse and detxofy the
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>liver.
>
>
>
>Another thought. I have heard mention and read that vitamins, and
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>supplements may cause toxicity. This is not as concerning as the great
>
>amount of toxicity build up in our body from the many years of foods
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>that are not condusive to good health, like fats, sugars, excess of
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>meats, (beef, pork and chickens)
>
>
>
>A Tip, in order to detoxify the vital organs and colon besides a daily
>
>regimen of 5-9 essential vegatables and fruit also include brown rice
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>and home made pinto or kidney beans. We have included all in our daily
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>regimen, of course utilizing the many recipes which are available and
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>tasty and toxity is not a problem. The way you know that detoxification
>
>process is taking place as a result of this regimen of diet is: YOu find
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>yourself being more regular, energetic, active and less tired, more
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>alert, etc. We experiene that.
>
>
>
>Another tip: When you include those above, then learn to understand why
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>the processed white flour is not good as opposed to wheat flour, and
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>learn why meats, chickens and pork is not healthy as opposed to fish,
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>wild game, and lamb.
>
>
>
>HOpe this helps. I know that some may not agree, but this is based on
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>our experience, the many books read, the programs we have attended and
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>researched. I find that the quality of life is so much more rewarding as
>
>a result of the lifestyle change that we undertook in order to beat
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>cancer. I know as well that this regimen need not be a chore and
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>everyting in moderation, but I will also say that the benefits are
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>there, from a medical and emotional viewpoint.
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>
>
>God Bless
>
>marty auslander
>
>
>
>firefly wrote:
>
>>
>
>> I believe that I have seen warnings whereby vitamins can build up in your
>
>> system and become toxins also, does anyone know about this? Thanks,
Lillian
>
>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: james kissinger <jkissing@uvic.ca>
>
>> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>
>> Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 1:25 AM
>
>> Subject: Re: [MOL] Jeanne K.
>
>>
>
>> >Diana, thanks for the note. Yes, the older we get, the better things were
>
>> >back "then".. About vitamins. My family doctor referred me to Dr Hoffer
(MD
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>> >75 years of age) (orthomolecular specialist)here in Victoria, BC. James
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>> >says he has a web page.The oncologists here do not approve of him but GPs
>
>> >still send patients to him. I don't think he ever says he will cure you
but
>
>> >he does believe we can work toward our own wellness. I take Ascorbic Acid
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>> >about 16 grams a day (varies up to 24 but if I get diarrhea, back off), 3
>
>> >grams are timed release (3 x a day) B Vitamins 50 mcg multi tab with
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>> >minerals, plus extra of Niacin, folic acid, selenium, vit E, caretinoids.
>
>> >maganese chelate. I asked for shark cartilage at the time of our visit and
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>> >he was not too keen but said if I wanted some cartilage why not try beef
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>> >cartilage so I take that as well. Very tempted to discontinue this one.
Not
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>> >on his program, I a;sp take Kyloric garlic, ginseng, gingko, CoQ10, grape
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>> >seed extract (I will switch to the activm type) and flax seeds. And
Essaic,
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>> >I decided on this as it contains native herbs. I am thinking of adding
what
>
>> >Ann Frahme recommends esp. pancreatic enzymes. I think others could
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>> >recommend something else. These are SUPPLEMENTS. I am still in the process
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>> >of switching to healthier foods and it is HARD. James is already a
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>> >vegetarian and our daughter Cathy now will not eat anything that has a
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>> >face, (I gather Chickens and turkeys don't count). We hope that the body
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>> >will take what it needs for healing. Taking the Vitamin C certainly speeds
>
>> >passage through the intestines and I am thinking this is good for the
body,
>
>> >Any thoughts on this? I believe Dr Hoffer says that all the supplements
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>> >(and Essaic) must be discontinued during chemo but can be restored during
>
>> >respites.
>
>> >Cheers, Jeanne K
>
>> >
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