Dear Jeanne,
Sorry if I am responding somewhat delayed. You probably have your answer
by now. This is my opinion.
Oncologists for the most part other than the Dr. Siegels and Dr.
Simontons and Dr Weils, have not the medical background or
qualifications to state whether alternatives are condusive while under
treatment. Typically their reponse may be as you said or "they are not
scientifically proven, but should not harm you". Now the same holds true
if you conversed your conventional therapy concerns with a naturalpath
as many naturalpaths/holistic doctors will tell you that conventioanal
treatment is not good for you. So both the conventional and alternative
medical community is divided only because they just are not knowledgable
about each others treatments.
I would suggest this: Every medical facility has a nuritionist and chemo
nurse department. If they are familiar with the vitamins and supplements
that you are ingesting then they should have that expertise to tell you
whether you should be on these or not. You may wish to go so far, and I
would encourage you to do so, is to call the manufacturer and see if
their products reacts to chemo. Think of this, that the vitamin or
supplement is to support the dietary foods that the supplement is meant
to support. If you are allergic to those foods that bother you when
taking chemo then you may not wish to take the vitamin as the vitamin
will do little good should it not have a dietary product to support.
Barb was on many, vitamins and supplements and we know of many as well
during chemo. Barb had no reaction other than some overdosing to certain
vitamins and supplements, (few though). The body tells you when you are
overdosing and then you cut back. I believe that if someone eats
nutritious and takes the supplements during chemo will enhance the
immune system as the immune system is compromised from both the cancer
and the chemo. The immune system needs nutrition in order to function
and the vitamins will support those foods so necessary and vital during
treatment. By the way I know of no vitamin or supplement to support
sugar, LOL. Kidding. Something to think about. Tumors feed off sugar.
That is what we were told by many. So sugar is not part of our diet or
has been a couple of years, (although we cheat once in a while with
moderation for occasions and little)
take care Jeanne. Hope this helps and hope you are not angry for my
responding so late
Now all this is based on our experience during Barb wellness journey. I
am not an expert or nutritionist, so pls I encourage you to verify all
information that I suggested by the professionals.
God Bless
marty auslander
james kissinger wrote:
>
> Diana and Marty,
> Sorry for intruding (what is the mannerly thing to do here, I read
> everything and don't care who reads my messages to whoever but understand
> that others might not share this view?) PLUS not sure how to pop in
> addresses yet.
>
> I was interested in what Marty wrote about Vitamin C as I am following a
> similiar program as well. The oncologists here don't think much of his but
> others (family practitioners) do referrals to him as did my doctor. She
> believes that he has kept many patients going past their "time". I did not
> pay enough attention at the time, Marty but I do believe that one goes off
> all supplements, (including Essaic) during Chemo and Radiation but can
> resume after surgery and during treatments. Is this what Barb did?
> Thanks, Jeanne K
> 07:21 AM 4/16/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >Dear Diana,
> >
> >Ooops, I think I just made an error. I posted on mol a thank you to Lil
> >instead of you about the seminar that Dr. Siegela and Bruczinski will be
> >appearking. Pls excuse me.
> >
> >Now, never ever fear about writing too long to me. Actually I feel very
> >honored that you have taken the time to do so.
> >
> >As for the vitamins....I have learned that all the media reports are
> >inconclusive. I have responded to mom about the negativity of what the
> >reports said and have posted the specific foundation phone numbers to
> >get clarification and in both reports on vitamin A and C that the news
> >media said were that the studies made were in short time duration like 2
> >months with few people involved, like 30 or so and were all healthy
> >instead of ill and that those studies were never replicted. So, I would
> >believe all the many years and many studies that concluded that Vitamin
> >A, C and E and selenium were more beneficial. And yes since there is no
> >cure to date with any type of vitamin, supplement, juice or chemo or
> >radiation for all diseases then there is bound to be some few cases that
> >will not respond to some of the vitamins, but that is rare. I know in
> >the cases of Vitamin A and C, Barbs body tells her when she is taking
> >too much as she will get diarrhea from megadoses of either vitamin, but
> >continues to take what the body can endure because the residual effects
> >of these vitamins are very beneficial for immune system revitalization
> >and maintenance. Hope this clears it up and i am sorry for being so long
> >here.
> >
> >It seems that Genes counts are very good after navelbine. Well good
> >then, it means that his bone marrow is producing and working at normal
> >levels.
> >
> >Every facility that does not have pet scans will say the same. It was
> >told to us as well, but there have been litigation cases against some
> >HMO's here and in every case the survivor won its petitition and
> >litigation to have the medical facility pay for pet scans.
> >
> >Take care Diana and sorry for the blooper.
> >
> >Love and God Bless from your two very admiring friends
> >marty and Barb
> >
> >
> >LINHILLIS wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Marty & Barb
> >>
> >> I really get confused sometimes with all these different reports. LOL
> >>
> >> I had Gene on fresh carrot juice, along with 1/2 beet juiced with carrots,
> >> to keep him from turning yellow. Well along came this report on TV and
> >> in a printed report that Carrot juice was not a good idea, in fact could
> >> feed lung cancer. I didn't really want Gene to stop drinking the juice,
> >> but he did. It's just like that report from England re Vit C. In this
> >> weeks TIME magazine, under bad news health, it states the finding on
> >> large doses of Vit C. about 3 lines. I really wish if the media is going
> >> to report these stories, we could have some data to back it up.
> >>
> >> I don't really know how Gene is doing, I talked with him last night, but
> >> he didn't sound that great. He had Navelbine, blood work yesterday,
> >> His counts are pretty good, white was 3700, red 13,700 and platlets
> >> 111,000. His appetite is slowly coming back since he stopped the
> >> Cisplatin. His Onc told him yesterday that the insurance company
> >> wouldn't pay for PET scans. I think his Onc is full of it. LOL I wish
> >> he had a decent cook, he finally got part time housekeeper, who is
> >> really a bad cook, so Gene has her to pick up things like salads,
> >> trays of fresh veggies, etc. I feel he is really trying to do all the
> right
> >> things and he is going to go back on Essaic Tea. Gene does cook
> >> his own breakfast now. That has always been his favorite meal, so
> >> I'm happy about that.
> >> Sorry for such a long post. Hope you both have a wonderful day.
> >> Hugs
> >> God Bless
> >> Diana
> >>
>
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