Marty,
Thanks so much!!! Jim is going to give the info to his onc. before his next
(and hopefully last for a while) session of chemo and see if she won't
concure with it. Will let you know how it works for him.
Luv ya both!!
cindy
p.s. How's Barb doing these days? Don't hear too much about her or I've
missed the posts on her.
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Auslander <fitecancer@earthlink.net>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Date: Saturday, April 11, 1998 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MOL] Quickie update on Jim
>Dear Cindy,
>
>I am e-mailing you privately the suggested combination of anti-nausea
>meds and the suggested dosages that the oncologist/pharmacist suggested.
>It worked for us and I am hoping it does for your hubby Jim as it has
>for all those that we did suggest to. Now, as I point out you will need
>a prescription for each, but I have never heard of an oncologist that
>didn't prescribe unless there is one of the meds that may not be
>condusive to the survivors tests.
>
>Pls let me know if it helps. I am certain it will
>
>God Bless
>marty
>
>
>Cindy Crowe wrote:
>>
>> Marty,
>>
>> If it's not too much trouble, I would like to know the doses you offered
so
>> that Jim can discuss it with his onc. before he starts his next session
of
>> chemo.
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>> Luv to ya both,
>>
>> cindy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Auslander <fitecancer@earthlink.net>
>> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>> Cc: ccrowe@msn.com <ccrowe@msn.com>
>> Date: Friday, April 10, 1998 3:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MOL] Quickie update on Jim
>>
>> >Dearest Cindy,
>> >
>> >there is a difference between Ativan and Decodran and Benedryl for
>> >instance.
>> >
>> >Ativan acts like a downer and is usually taken at bedtime in dosages of
>> >.5 mg or 1 mg for relaxation or sleeping. Now this is good to take at
>> >night after the day of anxiety of treatments, but generally is not used
>> >as a direct means to control nausea, that is what we were told.
>> >
>> >Now, the combination of decodron which is a steroid and benedryl which
>> >is a hystamine acts as an upper or a preventative for nausea and in
>> >combination works much better with the antinausea pill...Reglan to
>> >thwart nasea. In other words benedryl and antivan work against each
>> >other whereas decodron and benedryl and reglan work in accordance. I was
>> >given the dosage combination to take just after chemotherapy if you
>> >wish.
>> >
>> >This is just a thought for you so that there is a better understanding
>> >how these pills work. I am not a pharmacist, but this what we had to
>> >learn since Barb was on this combination for many months and treatments
>> >and worked very well. I would suggest you take a look at the dosage plan
>> >and suggestions. that may also clear up how this combination works and
>> >just another note...that the three pills of this combination is still
>> >much cheaper than Kytril or zofran.
>> >
>> >The combination of these pills, and there are three distinctive pills
>> >are very common indeed and one is over the counter, benedryl. So there
>> >is nothing magical about them and have been around for many years so
>> >that should not be a problem for your pharmacist and should not be
>> >expensive either in relation to the other antinausea pills. Just an
>> >afterthought. HOpe it helps.
>> >
>> >Pls let me know, Cindy, I am here for you. OK?
>> >
>> >God Bless
>> >marty
>> >
>> >
>> >Cindy Crowe wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Marty,
>> >>
>> >> I think the dr. may have just prescribed one of the "cocktails" you
had
>> >> mentioned a while back. It's Ativan, Benadryl, and Haloperidol. It's
>> too
>> >> soon to see if it works, there's only one pharmacy in the local area
that
>> >> mixes up compounds like this and, unfortunately is not covered by our
>> >> insurance, but if it helps him, the money is a small price to pay.
I'll
>> let
>> >> you know how it works in a few days. Jim's slowly coming out of his
>> chemo
>> >> slump (it's been almost 2 weeks now since his last 3 day session) but
>> he's
>> >> got another session coming up week after next and, since each session
has
>> >> made him feel a lot worse than the previous, we'll have a chance to
>> really
>> >> test this compound.
>> >>
>> >> Will write more later.....
>> >>
>> >> cindy
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Martin Auslander <fitecancer@earthlink.net>
>> >> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>> >> Cc: ccrowe@msn.com <ccrowe@msn.com>
>> >> Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 2:10 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [MOL] Quickie update on Jim
>> >>
>> >> >Dear Cindy,
>> >> >
>> >> >I just came back from our trip and saw your message. Pls excuse the
>> >> >delay. About Jims nausea. Have you and I ever discussed means that
may
>> >> >take away, totally, any nausea after and during treatments? My Barb
and
>> >> >her medical team found a way to be rid of nausea and when she took
the
>> >> >combination they suggested she had no more nausea for 30 treatments
and
>> >> >2 + years. When we suggested the same anti nausea combination to
others,
>> >> >they too did not have nausea after treatment. Just a suggestion. I
>> >> >didn't know if we had discussed or not. It may help Jim.
>> >> >
>> >> >God Bless
>> >> >marty auslander
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Cindy Crowe wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Just wanted to let you know where we are with Jim. He had his 5th
>> >> session
>> >> >> of chemo last Mon, Tues, & Weds. Up until today, he had the normal
>> side
>> >> >> effects which had not unexpectedly increased as they have with each
>> >> session.
>> >> >> He has felt ok on parts of some days and the rest of the days he's
>> really
>> >> >> been battling the nausea, sickness, and weak feelings. Today,
>> however,
>> >> he
>> >> >> was so sick he couldn't make his dr.'s appt or have his lab work
done.
>> >> His
>> >> >> dr. has added the HAB compound, which I think Susan's Bob also has,
to
>> >> see
>> >> >> if that will help. If not, she may hospitalize him where they can
>> give
>> >> him
>> >> >> IV treatments so that he doesn't not experience any more drastic
>> weight
>> >> >> reductions. He's got til tomorrow at 1:00 pm to start feeling well
>> >> enough
>> >> >> to see her. I don't think he's taking any downturn but I've
noticed
>> that
>> >> >> each session of chemo brings him down more. He's only got one more
>> >> session
>> >> >> before they will probably, depending on the CT they do then, give
him
>> a
>> >> >> (hopefully) 3 month vacation from the chemo. I just hope he can
stand
>> up
>> >> to
>> >> >> it. I feel so badly for him as there is not much I can do to help
(he
>> >> saw
>> >> >> no humor when I volunteered to go throw up for him!!! just trying
to
>> >> >> help!!).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The up side of Jim's sickness is that he is sleeping a lot which is
>> >> giving
>> >> >> me a lot of time to catch up on some things that have gotten away
from
>> >> me.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Will write more later.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> cindy
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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