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Re: [MOL] Quickie update on Jim



Marty,

If it's not too much trouble, I would like to know the doses you offered so
that Jim can discuss it with his onc. before he starts his next session of
chemo.

Thanks!!

Luv to ya both,

cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Auslander <fitecancer@earthlink.net>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Cc: ccrowe@msn.com <ccrowe@msn.com>
Date: Friday, April 10, 1998 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MOL] Quickie update on Jim


>Dearest Cindy,
>
>there is a difference between Ativan and Decodran and Benedryl for
>instance.
>
>Ativan acts like a downer and is usually taken at bedtime in dosages of
>.5 mg or 1 mg for relaxation or sleeping. Now this is good to take at
>night after the day of anxiety of treatments, but generally is not used
>as a direct means to control nausea, that is what we were told.
>
>Now, the combination of decodron which is a steroid and benedryl which
>is a hystamine acts as an upper or a preventative for nausea and in
>combination works much better with the antinausea pill...Reglan to
>thwart nasea. In other words benedryl and antivan work against each
>other whereas decodron and benedryl and reglan work in accordance. I was
>given the  dosage combination to take just after chemotherapy if you
>wish.
>
>This is just a thought for you so that there is a better understanding
>how these pills work. I am not a pharmacist, but this what we had to
>learn since Barb was on this combination for many months and treatments
>and worked very well. I would suggest you take a look at the dosage plan
>and suggestions. that may also clear up how this combination works and
>just another note...that the three pills of this combination is still
>much cheaper than Kytril or zofran.
>
>The combination of these pills, and there are three distinctive pills
>are very common indeed and one is over the counter, benedryl. So there
>is nothing magical about them and have been around for many years so
>that should not be a problem for your pharmacist and should not be
>expensive either in relation to the other antinausea pills. Just an
>afterthought. HOpe it helps.
>
>Pls let me know, Cindy, I am here for you. OK?
>
>God Bless
>marty
>
>
>Cindy Crowe wrote:
>>
>> Marty,
>>
>> I think the dr. may have just prescribed one of the "cocktails" you had
>> mentioned a while back.  It's Ativan, Benadryl, and Haloperidol.  It's
too
>> soon to see if it works, there's only one pharmacy in the local area that
>> mixes up compounds like this and, unfortunately is not covered by our
>> insurance, but if it helps him, the money is a small price to pay.  I'll
let
>> you know how it works in a few days.  Jim's slowly coming out of his
chemo
>> slump (it's been almost 2 weeks now since his last 3 day session) but
he's
>> got another session coming up week after next and, since each session has
>> made him feel a lot worse than the previous, we'll have a chance to
really
>> test this compound.
>>
>> Will write more later.....
>>
>> cindy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Auslander <fitecancer@earthlink.net>
>> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
>> Cc: ccrowe@msn.com <ccrowe@msn.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 2:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MOL] Quickie update on Jim
>>
>> >Dear Cindy,
>> >
>> >I just came back from our trip and saw your message. Pls excuse the
>> >delay. About Jims nausea. Have you and I ever discussed means that may
>> >take away, totally, any nausea after and during treatments?  My Barb and
>> >her medical team found a way to be rid of nausea and when she took the
>> >combination they suggested she had no more nausea for 30 treatments and
>> >2 + years. When we suggested the same anti nausea combination to others,
>> >they too did not have nausea after treatment. Just a suggestion. I
>> >didn't know if we had discussed or not. It may help Jim.
>> >
>> >God  Bless
>> >marty auslander
>> >
>> >
>> >Cindy Crowe wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just wanted to let you know where we are with Jim.  He had his 5th
>> session
>> >> of chemo last Mon, Tues, & Weds.  Up until today, he had the normal
side
>> >> effects which had not unexpectedly increased as they have with each
>> session.
>> >> He has felt ok on parts of some days and the rest of the days he's
really
>> >> been battling the nausea, sickness, and weak feelings.  Today,
however,
>> he
>> >> was so sick he couldn't make his dr.'s appt or have his lab work done.
>> His
>> >> dr. has added the HAB compound, which I think Susan's Bob also has, to
>> see
>> >> if that will help.  If not, she may hospitalize him where they can
give
>> him
>> >> IV treatments so that he doesn't not experience any more drastic
weight
>> >> reductions.  He's got til tomorrow at 1:00 pm to start feeling well
>> enough
>> >> to see her.  I don't think he's taking any downturn but I've noticed
that
>> >> each session of chemo brings him down more.  He's only got one more
>> session
>> >> before they will probably, depending on the CT they do then, give him
a
>> >> (hopefully) 3 month vacation from the chemo.  I just hope he can stand
up
>> to
>> >> it.  I feel so badly for him as there is not much I can do to help (he
>> saw
>> >> no humor when I volunteered to go throw up for him!!!  just trying to
>> >> help!!).
>> >>
>> >> The up side of Jim's sickness is that he is sleeping a lot which is
>> giving
>> >> me a lot of time to catch up on some things that have gotten away from
>> me.
>> >>
>> >> Will write more later.
>> >>
>> >> cindy
>> >>
>> >>
>



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