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Torie, I am glad that the effects seem to be wearing down a bit. You know
when you say you only have 11 weeks left, that doesn't sound so bad.  I mean
this cancering takes alot of time, I've been at it 4 months and so 11 weeks
sounds doable...

On the estrogen thing.... no I am not pre menopausal.... Last July the blood
workups that didn't show the cancer...showed I was in full menopause.  So I
went on estrogen...  When I got the cancer news I took myself off and
haven't even told my general MD yet.  Cancer being a side effect, I figured
that I didn't need any additional risk.  There are natural remedies that
will help like yam cream and if you go to a good health food/vitamin store
they can tell you about more.

Keep the faith my friend.  They are going to be releasing a new synthetic
estrogen soon that has no such dangerous side effects.. I watched a news
program on it about 4 months ago and they said it would be released probably
in February...  It started with an R, but I can't remember the name.
Anyway, push your doctor for info and see if you can take it when it comes
out... should be soon.

I had my hysterectomy on my 28th birthday... Cancer.  That is part of what
gives me such high (30-40%) survival rates.  LOL!!  So that was 17 years
ago....  Strange... November has not been the best month for me when it
comes to health and donations to the hospitals....I hope I don't have to
give too many more body parts!  LOL!  Anyway, I still have an ovary and a
half and as such did not need hormone replacement therapy until last July...
now I am going to ask today if it is possible that those were actually
indication of the cancer that was misdiagnosed like the exrays....

On the depression Torie, you are the only one that knows what works for you
and what you need to do to take care of that.  Vicodin doesn't even phase me
anymore after the 3-4 weeks I took it after surgery.  I believe there are
some more natural things you can take, like St.. Johns Wort for depression.
I know that you have to try to work with your doctor and the herbalist to be
sure that it is OK to take all things combined.  You will probably get most
information from the herbalist.  They are hard to find here in the
Midwest...we are a little behind, but you ought to be able to find several
to choose from.

Another thing you might want to do.  I am going to go for a massage.  I am
also going to check into therapeutic touch for me to take.  That might be a
good thing for me to do if I don't open the store...  I have a class
schedule and I think I can complete it by the middle of summer.
You know my herbalist did the iridology on me and pin pointed the tumor
exactly.  Then I had the CT scan and they said it was in the middle lobe...
when I had the surgery it was in the upper lobe right where my herbalist
said.  So I have been thinking on taking that too and reflexology.   From
hauling antiques to massage and therapy... That would be different, but it
might be great for my mind and soul.

So rather than me continue to ramble about all that I am thinking of... What
I really wanted to do was get you to think in a different direction about
your health and mind.  I hope I have friend.   My love to you and you are in
my prayers...  Carla
-----Original Message-----
From: victoria@best.com <victoria@best.com>
To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com <mol-cancer@lists.meds.com>
Date: Friday, January 23, 1998 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MOL] Still waiting to hear what the doctor said..


>Hi Carla,
>
>Well, the Dr. thinks the rash on my legs was from an interaction between
the
>Taxol (chemo drug) and motrin, which I had taken the day before the rash.
I
>have been taking lots of motrin for several years for lower back pain.  The
>dr. now says I should not take it at all for the remainder of the chemo
>(about 11 weeks left).  It apparently does something with or to platelets,
>and he doesn't want me to take it.  The rash is fading gradually & he
thinks
>it'll be gone within a week.   So now I have nothing for pain except meds
>which knock me out, like vicodin....it's hard to work while you're
>sleeping...hmm...maybe I need a new career as a sleep researcher...
>
>Anyway, if this wasn't bad enough, he also had the results of the assay of
>my tumor cells for estrogen receptors, and 70% of the cells were estrogen
>receptive.  This now means that I have been feeding the cancer by taking
>estrogen and can no longer take it.   I've been on hormone replacement
since
>the hysterectomy I had 2 and a half years ago. On days when I have just
>forgotten to take it, I have gotten depressed. So, between the pain and the
>depression it's not a very rosy outlook right now.  I suppose I can join
the
>rest of the world and take Prozac or Zoloft or Paxil, but I was determined
>to be the last person on earth who isn't taking it....Oh well....Not to
>mention that I'm going to start aging like Dorian Gray here any minute.
>Sigh......
>
>So..if you have/had adenocarcinoma, this estrogen thing is something you
>might want to check out. (but then you're probably pre-menopausal,
huh?)..or
>at least ask your Dr. about.  The suggestion for the assay came from the
>UCSF Onc..thank goodness I asked him about it or I would still be feeding
>the cancer every day unknowingly........
>
>Anyway, hope this fills you in...no major symptoms lately except the cold
>and the myalgia all over....
>Thanks for caring, friend...
>
>Torie
>
>
>
>
>
>At 10:59 PM 1/22/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hey there Torie.... I would really appreciate the update on you from
seeing
>the doctor... Nothing that you were going through sounded normal to me....
>Please let me know what all they said.... Love you..
>>Carla
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