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Re: [MOL] The Meaning of Serenity



Thank you, Marianne      You all make me feel pretty human.  Our dear Joicy
found him and I know she would like everyone to feel as good as she does. 
I guess we all do what we can, when we can.  I'm still gonna get that
journal and write a few things down.   love,   vicci

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> From: W&M ROSE <FEARME@bigpond.com>
> To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> Subject: Re: [MOL] The Meaning of Serenity
> Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 5:57 AM
> 
> Dear Vicci, 
> Forgive me for butting in, but I can't help myself. I grew up very much
> like you as far as church going went. I was christened roman catholic,
did
> the whole communion and confirmation bit (more to please my gran than
> anything) To please my mum I attended church of england sunday school for
> years. Then I found the Salvos (Salvation Army) Thank God for the Salvos!
> They taught me that a church is not where God is, it is just a building
> like any other. It's ok to make mistakes, that is what Jesus died for. I
> talk to God everyday, but in general terms. Sometimes I even remember to
> say thanks! Mostly, what I believe is this, Do the best that you can in
> life, if you can help someone, do so. In short Vic, (ha! get it?)
continue
> to do as you are, you don't need to make public speeches about your love
or
> otherwise for God, he sees what is in your heart and your actions.
Believe
> me, I am constantly questioning my faith, but I must believe in HIm,
'cause
> I usually say something like: 'Hey God, do I really have faith in you, or
> what?' I do mean to be flippant here, 'cause I am sure that He has a
sense
> of humour, else where did ours come from? By the way, except for My dear
> sister in law's funeral, I haven't been inside a church for many years,
> because it is not what you do on Sundays that matters, it's how you live
> your life! Had enough? I have! LOL. You take care, and don't stress, just
> let things happen.
> Love Marianne
> 
> ----------
> > From: Vicci Ewen <vicci@wave.net>
> > To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> > Subject: Re: [MOL] The Meaning of Serenity
> > Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 5:14 PM
> > 
> > Dear Joicy,
> > Wow.....how do I answer this?  First of all I would never take offense
> from
> > a friend trying to help, especially you.  You wrote a very caring and
> > inspirational letter and I thank you.  I guess I just don't know how to
> do
> > what your asking.  As a child I went to a little Protestant church in
our
> > neighborhood and had fun and put my little quarter in the basket with
my
> > brothers.  Then I started going to the Mormon church with the two girls
> > next door.  When I was old enough to stand up and give my testimonial I
> > quit.  I learned scriptures and verses and went till about 15 years of
> age.
> >  Got that far before I was being encouraged to testify.  I guess that
> > scared me.  Not wanting to talk to a group of people.  I've heard the
> > phrase, "Let go, Let God"  Most of the people I know that go to church
> > preach the word but don't live the word.  And many others I don't know
> > personally don't live up to what I assume they are being taught in the
> > church.  I know it's not fair to pray only when you need something very
> > badly but I find a comfort in living my life as best I can without
> hurting
> > others.  I try to think before saying a hurtful thing.  I try to put
> myself
> > in the other persons shoes before criticizing.  I'm not making excuses
> but
> > I just haven't felt the thing you have felt about going with God.  I'm
> > definetly open to it.  But what do I do, go to church and hope it
> happens? 
> > It makes me very uncomfortable when people start talking religion and I
> > know how they lead their lives.  I've often thought I would take my
> > granddaughter and go down the street to the little church.  Give it a
> try. 
> > Maybe I will.  How come it's so easy for some to just all of a sudden,
> > believe?  Why is it so hard for some of us.  I do believe in a higher
> power
> > but sometimes I just think about the karma of a situation and that's
> enough
> > to make me change something.  Like not throwing my gum out the car
window
> > because I know gum will come into my life somehow.  I'll step in it or
> the
> > car in front of me will sling it up on my car.  I'm not making light of
> > this, I'm telling you exactly how I think about things.  I don't step
on
> > ants, intentionally.  I always let a driver pull in my lane.  Just
stupid
> > little things.  I'm probably not getting the drift of what you're
trying
> to
> > tell me but I swear I just don't understand.  I've often thought how
easy
> > it would be to have some help....so why doesn't it come?  Why aren't I
> hit
> > over the head, being I'm so hardheaded.  It sure would be easier than
> > trying to handle all this myself.  Maybe I'm a control freak.  Sounds
> like
> > it took some convincing on your part also.  Maybe I will get that book
> and
> > write a few things down.  Just to see what happens.  Just don't give up
> on
> > me, Joicy!  Where there's a will, there's a way, huh?  Love you!  
Vicci
> > 
> > ----------
> > > From: Joicy Becker-Richards <joicy@erols.com>
> > > To: mol-cancer@lists.meds.com
> > > Subject: Re: [MOL] The Meaning of Serenity
> > > Date: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 6:43 PM
> > > 
> > > Dear Vicci,
> > > With all that is going on in your life these days, I'm not surprised
> > > you're feeling kind of shaky, dear friend. And when everything is
> > > stirred up, it is so hard to find perspective. Unfortunately, there
is
> > > no easy fix -- though folks will always hunt for it in meds, drugs,
> > > alcohol, money, etc., etc. Speaking from personal experience, I've
> found
> > > only one source for that kind of serenity: knowing that there is
higher
> > > power with a plan... I tried for so long to "do it all" on my own,
with
> > > disasterous results. Finally, in desperation, I gave up and literally
> > > issued God a challenge: "Ok, you think you can do better with my
life?
> > > Go for it! But I'm keeping notes!" And I did -- and he did. I mean, I
> > > really put him to the test -- as things went wrong, or I needed help,
> > > I'd make note of it in a journal, and then watch to see how he'd
> resolve
> > > it. What amazed me is that I was always willing to settle for
mediocre
> > > solutions, when God wanted to give me the best -- his answers always
> > > exceed my expectations.
> > > 
> > > Oh, the stories I could tell... But the real test came 3 years ago as
I
> > > sat in a bath, dicovered a lump, and knew I had breast cancer. And in
> > > spite of it, like the mother bird in the story, I felt an impossible
> > > serenity, "the peace that passes all understanding," as the
scriptures
> > > describe it. And that feeling stayed with me, even during the worst
of
> > > it, with bad reactions to chemo, etc. We have a very powerful God.
It's
> > > tough turning things loose to him, but wow! the things that happen
when
> > > you do!
> > > 
> > > Anyhow I share this with you as a friend, with love and concern for
all
> > > you're going through, and the hope I haven't offended. You and your
> > > family continue to be in my prayers. Love, Joicy
> > > 
> > > Vicci Ewen wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Oh to feel serene like that mother bird.  I kinda feel shaky most
of
> > the
> > > > time lately.  
> >
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